30 responses

  1. Tom
    June 28, 2009

    Stonewall was unique from all the antigay police raids because the patrons fought back. These queens fled to a nearby home!

  2. cd
    June 28, 2009

    On DKos a person who says he was a bar manager in Fort Worth is saying that he’s seen this sort of thing happen before.

    It seems that in Texas when bars stop, er, contributing financially to the wellbeing of the local police, these raids seem to happen. It’s a remarkable coincidence.

  3. Rod
    June 28, 2009

    Only in Fort Worth, I am ashamed to say I live here. I am sorry for the one that is hospitalized. What, we have to be scared that we are gay if we live in Fort Worth?? This must not be allowed!!!!! Shame on the P. D. Go get criminals.

  4. AJD
    June 28, 2009

    Don’t just protest — SUE THEIR FU**ING A$$ES! This has “class-action” written all over it.

  5. mike
    June 28, 2009

    To Tom ,your post is stupid.
    Stonewall was a totally different situation. Saying these queens fled ,and what would you have done , this is 2009 not 1969 , the cops were dead wrong and as usual playing the gay homophobe defense. I hope they get their asses sued and people fired. most cops are such prick teases in bars anyway , seems to me if there was any groping they initiated it. hello lawsuit

  6. AdrianT
    June 29, 2009

    This is a total disgrace and I hope it gets national coverage.

    This is gestapo-style thuggery, and I hope they get sued. A march on the police station would be in order, too.

    My thoughts are with the LGBT community of Fort Worth.

  7. Trevor
    June 29, 2009

    Gasp! Public intoxication inside a bar that serves alcohol? Next thing you know they’re will be fist-fighting in schools and women taking jobs outside the home!

  8. Billy
    June 29, 2009

    Regardless weather they faught or ran, the police had no business going in there. It seams to me like the police just wanted to shut down another gay bar. The police are PIGS!

  9. William Westwork
    June 29, 2009

    You know you guys at this website do decent work but I’m probably not alone in noticing that you never seem to include even a brief list of phone numbers or e-mail addresses of politicians and administrators relevant to particular articles.

    Where is the Sherriff’s office number? Where is the number of the Fort Worth mayors office? Where is the number of the Congressional reps from the area? The city council members etc. Do some basic footwork for Pete’s sake and actually help your readers bring some pressure to bear rather than just preaching to your choir.

  10. Richard W. Fitch
    June 29, 2009

    Here is a link to the blog page for the Dallas Voice. There was a comment last nite that includes 20-30 contact nbrs and addresses of govt agencies to call regarding the Rainbow Lounge “inspection”. I tried to find it again but their server is having problems handling all the traffic generated by this event. It will be worth pursuing later for updates on the condition of Chad Gibson, the patron who was assaulted by police resulting in a serious brain injury.
    http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/06/29/cnn-reports-on-rainbow-lounge-raid/

  11. Richard W. Fitch
    June 29, 2009

    Here is the listing from Dallas/Fort Worth:
    MPetrelis Says:

    June 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
    to whom should i direct my complaint?

    Contact Us – Headquarters
    By E-Mail

    Please include an e-mail address and phone number in the text of your e-mail to ensure that you receive a response.

    complaints@tabc.state.tx.us
    For reporting violations of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code and Rule.

    credit.law@tabc.state.tx.us
    For general inquiries about credit law or for wholesalers to report Notices of Default or Notices of Payment.

    education@tabc.state.tx.us
    For educational information on preventing underage drinking.

    excise.tax@tabc.state.tx.us
    For questions about who is required to file monthly excise reports or taxes on alcoholic beverages.

    grants@tabc.state.tx.us
    For information regarding grant programs.

    human.resources@tabc.state.tx.us
    For information about job opportunities with the TABC.

    label.approval@tabc.state.tx.us
    For questions regarding label approval registration in Texas.

    marketing.practices@tabc.state.tx.us
    For questions about laws regulating the marketing of alcoholic beverages (i.e., advertising, promotions) and marketing relationships in the industry.

    open.records@tabc.state.tx.us
    For open records requests regarding TABC.

    opr@tabc.state.tx.us
    To report complaints against TABC employees regarding allegations of illegal acts and/or employee misconduct.

    poe@tabc.state.tx.us
    For questions about the personal importation of alcoholic beverages and cigarettes from Mexico into Texas.

    questions@tabc.state.tx.us
    For general inquiries or comments and questions about the TABC.

    seller.training@tabc.state.tx.us
    For questions regarding programs dealing with the training of employees in the laws of selling and/or serving of alcoholic beverages.

    webmaster@tabc.state.tx.us
    For computer related problems or comments about the TABC website.

    To e-mail an individual at the TABC: first name.last name@tabc.state.tx.us (e.g., to e-mail John Smith, address your e-mail to: john.smith@tabc.state.tx.us)
    By Mail:

    Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission
    PO Box 13127
    Austin, Texas 78711

    Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission
    5806 Mesa Dr
    Austin, Texas 78731
    By Telephone or Fax:
    TABC Telephone Numbers Office Voice Fax
    Main Switchboard 512-206-3333
    Complaint Line 888-843-8222
    (888-THE-TABC)
    TDD 512-206-3270
    Executive 512-206-3221 512-206-3203
    Enforcement 512-206-3400 512-206-3449
    Compliance 512-206-3300 512-206-3349
    Credit Law 512-206-3301 512-206-3329
    Education and Prevention 512-206-3290 512-206-3316
    Excise Tax 512-206-3342 512-206-3321
    Fiscal Services 512-206-3225 512-206-3248
    General Services 512-206-3254 512-206-3274
    Grants 512-206-3430 512-206-3316
    Human Resources 512-206-3220 512-206-3350
    Information Resources 512-206-3450 512-206-3281
    Legal 512-206-3490 512-206-3498
    Licensing 512-206-3360 512-206-3399
    Marketing Practices 512-206-3411 512-206-3349
    Office of Professional
    Responsibility (Internal Affairs) 512-206-3405 512-206-3207
    Open Records 512-206-3491 512-206-3226
    Ports of Entry 512-206-3351 512-206-3348
    Server Training 512-206-3420 512-206-3316

  12. jim
    June 29, 2009

    I guess living in Texas is like living in Nazi Germany.

    Not like I have room to talk, living in Virginia. “Virginia is for lovers.” Just don’t get married.

    My step-mother is 1/4 jew and hated wearing the star in the late 30s. She was 5 and other kids would beat her up. Oh, what a world.

  13. Laughing Man
    June 29, 2009

    It is asinine for this to be happening anywhere in America in this day and age. So here is the information on the police department. If this story upsets you please call them and let them know that we find this unacceptable in this country. Flood their mailbox and snail mail with complaints (not threats, that should go without saying but some people’s emotions are running high about this). Whether you be LGBT or just a supporter of equal rights like myself let them know that this behavior is appalling and there is no room for it in today’s world.

    Jeffrey Halstead
    Chief of Police

    fwpdweb@fortworthpd.com

    Police Administration (817)392-4200

    Media Contact
    (Sgt. Criado) (817)392-4214

    Internal Affairs
    (complaints on officers)(817)392-4270

    350 W. Belknap St.
    Fort Worth, TX 76102

  14. lurker
    June 29, 2009

    I want to put in a word of support for our hosts. They give us their research and time and thoughts free of charge. It’s their blog. We can read it or not. There’s no obligation from anyone or to anyone except respectful speech.

    It’s wonderful that some folks have responded to William’s concern, anyone of us could have done that (no complaining needed) . . . we all have access to the same internet.

    Thanks Jim and Timothy et al., for providing an excellent source of thoughtful LGBT news and opinion.

  15. jim
    June 29, 2009

    Ditto, Lurker. It is a good thing to have our say. Love, jim.

  16. Jim Burroway
    June 29, 2009

    Thanks lurker.

    Let me add another note. This web site is an all volunteer effort. In fact, everyone here has full-time day jobs. This is something we do on the side. We’re passionate about what we’re doing, so we find the time necessary to get this information out there, but in the end, there’s only so much time we can free up to do this. We feel it’s important though because I think we’re filling a few small niches that others miss.

    We can’t be all things to all people. There just isn’t time to do that, as much as I would like to. So that’s why we have comments, so that you, our readers, can drop in additional information and updates.

    We appreciate everyone’s help and contributions via comments in making this web site a success.

  17. Christopher Waldrop
    June 29, 2009

    I’d just like to add an additional note of support to all the people responsible for making this blog the fascinating, thought-provoking, and enjoyable place that it is.

  18. Timothy Kincaid
    June 29, 2009

    We do appreciate the help, tips, contributions, perspecive, and even corrections that we receive.

    And along that line, I have a few questions for our Texas readers:

    In California we don’t have “bar checks”, that I know of. Police come into bars if there is a problem, if they have been called, or if they are investigating a specific situation at a specific bar (e.g. a drug den).

    Even then, I’ve never heard of anyone being arrested in California for being intoxicated inside a bar. Even if they stumble out of the bar and get in a taxi there’s no issue.

    So my questions are:

    1. Is it illegal to be intoxicated inside a private establishment – like a bar – in Texas?

    2. Is it customary for police to do “bar checks” and arrest people for the crime of being drunk in a bar?

    3. Does this occur in mainstream popular bars or is it limited to gay bars, dive bars, alternative bars, and the places in which “undesirables” congregate?

    4. Is it illegal in the state of Texas to make “sexually explicit movements”? Is this a crime if these “movements” are made towards police officers?

  19. Jim Burroway
    June 29, 2009

    To Timothy’s point, I have a question I’ll call “4a”: Do Texas police have a history of arresting women in straight bars who make “sexually explicit movements”?

    I’m still looking for that press release but haven’t found it. If someone could help me out, I’m sure there’s one around there somewhere.

  20. Kevin
    June 29, 2009

    I am ashamed of the Fort Worth Police department in their evil homophobic move. I am a gay law enforcement officer and I must say I am sorry for each and every patron who was abused at that bar. My suggestion to them is write down everything you remember and sue the hell out of the officers of the Fort Worth Police Department individually. They are clearly not upholding the oath they took to protect and serve those in their community. In any case, God will hand them their judgement as they handed us theirs.

  21. kwrups
    June 29, 2009

    like i said on the federaljack.com website, the officer who said he was “groped” is probably still in the closet or is homophobic. this raid was bs and the police know it .nobody should be treated this way. i agree about the straight women comment, especially when i have wanted to kick their ass when they do that to my man, then i would have been the one to go to jail. i think all these cops and tabc were homophobes or in the closet, and wishing they could be out too.

  22. kwrups
    June 29, 2009

    also my prayers are with chad gibson. i would be looking for an attorney, maybe with the aclu, if i was his family member.

  23. Scott P.
    June 29, 2009

    Just curious, if the police can arrest you for being drunk in a bar, which I assume is not a public place, can they arrest you in your home for the same reason? Do the Ft. Worth police ever arrest patrons of straight bars for public intoxication?

  24. huh?
    June 29, 2009

    try not being gay… thats a start?

  25. Ryan Thompson
    July 18, 2009

    The police involved haven’t been punished, either, just quietly shuffled to desk jobs (for the time being).

    The victims need to get with the program and call Lambda Legal. NOW.

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