14 responses

  1. Matt
    June 29, 2009

    Jim,

    Just speculating, but the companies that make those vest/windbreakers that police wear in raids (to prevent friendly fire) probably have a limited number of terms they print on “generic” items ordered off-the-shelf. Since they probably don’t stock “TABC” nor would most people recognize that (it’s not exactly as commonly known as “ATF”), the department just ordered something that matched the function.

    Matt

  2. Richard W. Fitch
    June 29, 2009

    Matt – I have to express extreme doubt regarding your explanation. If the uniforms are indeed “off-the-shelf” it will be the first time in my recollection that any govt. agency did not go thru bids for design and price to clothe their staff. There is just too much ego involved for them to trot into some uniform shop for their supplies. This increases reasons to speculate just who was executing this “inspection”. Another issue – we all need to keep Chad Gibson (the patron who was injured) and his family in our prayers. According to the most recent report, his condition has worsened and may require brain surgery.

  3. Lane
    June 29, 2009

    FW and TABC police will “investigate themselves” and determine that they can actually wear uniforms that say anything they wish, as long as it doesn’t indicate a rank above their real one. All part of their practice of working undercover, etc.

    Obviously, the reason they wore uniforms of a nonexistant organization was to keep folks from finding out who exactly was behind the raid. The mainstream press will have difficulty confirming facts, and will probably drop the story rather than run with the “police out of control” angle.

  4. jim
    June 29, 2009

    This whole episode is making me paranoid. Do I NEED a gun to protect myself, family and property?

    OK, Maybe I’m overreacting. My question is why were the police at the bar in the first place?

    I’d like to hear the law enforcements side of the story too. INQUIRING MINDS REALLY WANT TO KNOW!

    I think we need law enforcement. Our police gets lots of bs, but they are needed in society. They put their lives on the line every day.

    Our law enforcement people need some respect too.

    Here’s mine. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    And, thank you, Jim for putting this kind of information out there for us.

    It is appreciated.

    Love, Jim.

  5. Timothy Kincaid
    June 29, 2009

    Perhaps they accidentally printed the two words in reverse order. “Police State” certainly seems more appropriate.

  6. BJohnM
    June 29, 2009

    Timothy’s explanation makes the most sense.

  7. tavdy79
    June 29, 2009

    The mainstream press will have difficulty confirming facts, and will probably drop the story rather than run with the “police out of control” angle.

    Not if they also focus on the police’s attempt to prevent people from knowing exactly who was responsible for the raid. The fact that they were wearing vests for a non-existent organisation shouldn’t be viewed as a roadblock, but as something to be played up. It’s a pretty obvious case of dishonesty in the police, and that will get others – especially other minority groups – worried that they could be treated the same way.

  8. Tim
    June 30, 2009

    GOOD QUESTION….

    The OFFICIAL TX STATE police…according to WIKIPEDIA….

    The Texas State Police were formed during the administration of Texas Governor Edmund J. Davis on July 22, 1870, to combat crime statewide in Texas. It was dissolved April 22, 1873.

    So what is this? SCARY thats what.

  9. David
    July 2, 2009

    That’s got to be TABC. It’s acknowledged their agents were at the scene and FWPD wears the black uniforms (which can be seen in that picture as well).

  10. CopCadet
    October 26, 2009

    I’ve often wondered about this. I have had two experiences with the “state police”. Once, I was at a park at night and an officer identified himself as being with the “state police” and was looking for a missing teen. I was certain there was no state police aside from DPS, WHO WOULD ID THEMSELVES AS DPS. Another time, I was standing in line at a gas station when a “state police” officer came in the door. His badge was embroidered on his shirt and his car had regular, (not EXEMPT) license plates. He carried a gun and a radio and his car had several antennae… My guess is that it is a security organization made up of certified Texas peace officers, but who do not work for a particular agency.

  11. WNEWSOM
    June 19, 2011

    REAL SIMPLE ITS A GENERIC TERM EASLY RECOGNIZED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER EMPLOYED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. EASIER TO RECOGNIZE THAN TABC, DPS, TEXAS RANGER, TEXAS FIRE MARSHAL. IT SIMPLY STATES AS RECOGNIZABLE TERM IDENTIFYING THE OFFICER AS LAW ENFORCEMENT. EVERYBODY KNOWS POLICE. IM A DEPUTY SHERIFF I ALWAYS GET CALLED OFFICER INSTEAD OF DEPUTY. NORMAL PEOPLE CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

  12. Priya Lynn
    June 20, 2011

    Wnewsom, you’re missing the point. When a generic term is used no one knows which organization they belong to so the public can’t hold them responsible for their actions. Its like toyota selling cars under the name “Car Manufacturers” and not telling you who they are and then when you need warrenty repairs you don’t know who to go to.

  13. Jared
    May 27, 2012

    That is the TABC, even on their patch it says STATE POLICE.

  14. Ranger
    February 18, 2014

    YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT!!PRIYA lYNN,,,YOU GO TO THE STATE TO COMPLAINT BY GETTING NAMES,,,THEY KEEP A LIST OF ALL STATE OFFICIALS OF WHAT AGENCY THEY WORK FOR WHETHER IT BE DPS,TABC,TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL INVESTIGATORS,TEXAS RANGERS,,,ALL HAVE STATE POWER TO ENFORCE WITHIN THEIR SPECIALTY.QUIT HATING ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AND GET A LIFE,,YOU MUST BE PARANOID BECAUSE YOUR DOING SOMETHING WRONG…HUH!

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