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  1. Gina9223
    September 20, 2009

    I’m blonde and totally lost on the logic they used…..and why do they think its ok to show a Playboy to an 11 year old? DOB’s

  2. Burr
    September 20, 2009

    “After all, homosexuality, we know, studies have been done by the National Institute of Health to try to prove that its genetic and all those studies have proved its not genetic. Homosexuality is inflicted on people.”

    Anyone have any idea what he’s remotely talking about here?

    If porn made everyone gay.. well.. then we wouldn’t have to worry about equal rights any more. We’d be the VAST majority of the population!

  3. Burr
    September 20, 2009

    Also, that makes Utah and many other red states that top the charts in pornography consumed some really gay ass states. Go figure!

  4. Rebecca
    September 20, 2009

    …LOL.

    I really have no other reaction.

  5. Mike
    September 20, 2009

    These people are obsessed! It’s so wacky.

  6. Penguinsaur
    September 20, 2009

    “After all, homosexuality, we know, studies have been done by the National Institute of Health to try to prove that its genetic and all those studies have proved its not genetic. Homosexuality is inflicted on people.”

    They always think pointing out no ones found a gay gene proves something. Have they found a straight gene? I don’t think so, probably because something as complicated as sexuality is affected by so many factors its impossible to point out just one. Not that these bigots care, they know this is BS but it lets them tell the media their campaign to take rights away from fellow americans is somehow protecting anyone.

  7. KZ
    September 20, 2009

    Is this the same gathering were participants harassed reporters from MSNBC and Fox News? If it is, no wonder people didn’t want the media covering this! It’s disturbing. How does one reason with those who have this bizarre mindset?

    Ok. So homosexuality is most likely not genetic. And that means it MUST be inflicted on people??? No, Burr, I haven’t the foggiest. But I’m certain that the audience is drinking this crap up.

  8. Richard Rush
    September 20, 2009

    I think it’s fair to say that the vast majority of the Values Voters crowd share a belief system that is largely delusional and superstitious, thereby creating a reality for themselves that is mostly fabricated from Magic Truth. So, in their world it doesn’t feel bizarre when one of their leaders asserts that all porn is gay porn. Beliefs that cannot be supported by evidence/reason/logic is perfectly normal for them. Things become true through magic.

    And I guess the “all porn is gay porn” notion is also part of a larger strategy of finding ways to blame gays for everything they hate.

  9. David Malcolm
    September 20, 2009

    Hmmm if all porn is gay porn… then how come there aren’t more hot men?

  10. Edwin
    September 20, 2009

    That whole group sound like a bunch of ostrich’s with their heads in the sand. If they all had any brains they would do some thinking for them selves. But I guess they follow one leader who doesn’t know up from down.
    Just another bunch that don’t know what they are talking about.
    Dumb a**es!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Dan
    September 20, 2009

    You know… They have a point!

    I did look at a playboy when I was 11 and from that point I knew I was gay!

    What they forgot to mention that same porn turns lesbians straight. I know if I was a lesbian and I look at porn I would definitely go for the guys!

  12. —-
    September 20, 2009

    His “ex-gay” friend: totally made-up, or is actually himself.

  13. Emily K
    September 20, 2009

    I think these people are missing the definition of “pornography.”

  14. Richard W. Fitch
    September 20, 2009

    Emily, perhaps more to the point is the fact that there is no single, accepted definition of “pornography”. Some 21st century Victorians consider Michaelangelo’s ‘David’ such; while others claim some of the most bizarre sexual depictions as valid modern art. There is no more likely prospect of reaching agreement here as on any other topic which is ultimately rooted in one’s religious beliefs, or lack thereof. Although to some of us they are ‘certifiable’, they find it quite logical to their worldview.

  15. Emily K
    September 20, 2009

    Believe me, as a working artist, I know about the strange blur between art-is-porn//porn-is-art and so forth.

    I’m just saying that I think they’re missing the point that the idea behind porn is that it’s arousing to the person looking at it and that the person enjoys looking at it. Now there’s all sorts of blurs regarding whether someone is aroused by something in a picture that they would never do in real life – but I doubt these people would understand something that complex.

  16. GreenEyedLilo
    September 20, 2009

    Wow. I think I broke something I might need later trying to process that. But at least I didn’t break as much of my brain as Michael Schwartz clearly has. I don’t know what he’d do with, say, mixed-sex married couples who enjoy watching pornography together. It might be fun to find out.

    Isn’t Tom Coburn a medical doctor? You’d think he’d have at least a little regard for actual science, if that’s the case.

    Also, can anyone else imagine someone trying to use this allegedly ace argument against porno in a middle-school students’ Sunday School class? “Boys, if you look at Playboy, it’ll turn you gay!” “Um, what?”

  17. Priya Lynn
    September 20, 2009

    all pornography is homosexual pornography because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.

    By the same token all sex is gay sex. Think about it, if a man has sex with a woman he’s experiencing pleasure through the male body as a conduit, he’s getting pleasure from a male body – it’s gay!

  18. Bill S
    September 21, 2009

    Well, there ARE people who think masturbation is a form of gay sex, since you’re touching someone who’s the same gender as you.

  19. Leo
    September 21, 2009

    I remember when conservatism was animated by a sense of personal responsibility. In the last 15 years it’s degenerated into endless scape goating and tortured logic directed to evade any personal responsibility.

    Now all porn is “gay” even when it’s being made for and by heterosexuals. A straight man watching a Jenna Jamison DVD is engaging in “gay” behavior. An inattentive husband is somehow being “gay”. Sort of how gay marriage is somehow going to ruin the institution for heterosexuals in a country with a 50% divorce rate. There doesn’t appear to be any failing that they assume responsibility for. It’s all being inflicted on them by outside forces. Pathetic and gutless.

  20. Chris McCoy
    September 21, 2009

    I wonder if Larry Flint and Hugh Hefner know they’re gay, and that their magazines are full of “gay” porn…

  21. R Holmes
    September 21, 2009

    Yay! Bigot logic roolz.

  22. John
    September 21, 2009

    I guess he has a point, that is if the teen looking at Hustler only looked at the photos of couples and stared at the guy’s schlong…

  23. JimInMa
    September 21, 2009

    Maybe they’re just trying to justify their own “conversion” to homosexuality. Because then it will be someone else’s fault when they leave their wives.

  24. Priya Lynn
    September 21, 2009

    I guess he has a point, that is if the teen looking at Hustler only looked at the photos of couples and stared at the guy’s schlong

    I noticed that porn movies with men and women in them are much more popular than all female porn movies. It suggests to me that most heterosexual males must be a little bit gay or it’d be the other way around.

  25. Mykelb
    September 21, 2009

    I bet that Hugh Heffner, Bob Guccione, and Larry Flint would disagree with this characterization of pornography. These far right wing fanatics are sex-obsessed and it has placed them even farther into a paranoic, delusional, hate-filled world view.

  26. —-
    September 21, 2009
  27. Emily K
    September 21, 2009

    they’re not just sex-obsessed, they’re MALE obsessed. It’s all about the cock for them.

  28. Timothy Kincaid
    September 21, 2009

    I guess he has a point, that is if the teen looking at Hustler only looked at the photos of couples and stared at the guy’s schlong…

    I owned scissors and tape.

    ;)

  29. John
    September 21, 2009

    “I owned scissors and tape.”

    I plead the 5th…

    [whistles innocently]

  30. Trovore
    September 22, 2009

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  31. Kubathemaster
    December 17, 2009

    Too much of anything including porn may change your mind about things

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