Box Turtle Podcast: Gay Conservatives

Gabriel Arana

February 24th, 2010

On this week’s podcast: What’s the deal with gay conservatives? How does LGBT identity intersect with our politics?

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Direct link to audio file available here.


February 25th, 2010

what I don’t understand about “gay conservatives” i.e. fiscal conservatives who are also gay, is why aren’t you Libertarians? a vote for the lesser of two evils is still evil. There is even a gay libertarian group known as Outright. Why buy in to the 2 party system? If you really want to change things, vote your conscious and watch the Republicans implode, while the Libertarians grow and take their place.


February 25th, 2010

What puzzles me is that gay Conservatives are saying the exact same things now that the ‘Austin 12’ said when they met with Bush over a decade ago. Each time we are told, the Republican Party is the true answer for gay liberation and only the GOP can best serve the gay community. Then when things get worse within the GOP and the Party gets dramatically more homophobic, we are told new lies. If Log Cabin, GOProud, Republican Unity Coalition, and the Austin 12 keep insisting that they are “working from the inside for change” … THEN WHY DO THEY KEEP FAILING?!


February 25th, 2010

If Log Cabin, GOProud, Republican Unity Coalition, and the Austin 12 keep insisting that they are “working from the inside for change” … THEN WHY DO THEY KEEP FAILING?!

Well if we’re going to reduce this to solely “gay issues”, one could, and indeed SHOULD, ask the very same thing of the Democrat Party. Where’s the repeal of DADT we’ve been promised? How about ENDA? UAFA? Etc. Please don’t bother posting the promises they’ve made, they don’t mean squat. Why just yesterday BTB posted an understanding that DADT repeal isn’t going anywhere, despite what we’ve been told. I expected nothing less from the Dems.

Face it: the Dems talk a good game but fail to deliver. Yeah, we got hate crimes. Ooh, I’m thrilled. How 90s of the Dems. /sarc

Neither party gives a crap about gays, the Republicans are just upfront and honest about this whilst the Dems lie to your face and take your money in the process.


February 25th, 2010

I’m a moderate gay conservative, but I’m feeling totally without a home. The GOP has become the home of big spenders and Christian orthodoxy… that is: fiscal liberalism and social conservatism — my very opposite. The dems are still… the dems. Not only have they never missed an well-intentioned opportunity to screw everything up (with a huge price tag), they lack the courage of their convictions, express an inability to articulate themselves to the voters even when they’re right, and endlessly bicker amongst themselves.

What’s a boy to do? When all else fails, start at home.

Given the last decade of the anti-gay fervor in the Republican party, I quit the GOP in 2000 and joined the Dems. At least they won’t actively use me to whip up voter sentiment.

Mind you, the don’t do anything for you either — as John points out, they don’t (and never have) delivered. But at least the talk of Constitutional Amendments stops.


February 25th, 2010

Dems have delivered marriage equality in a couple of states at least..

National Dems are worthless though.

Supporting a party is pointless, work on individuals and support the ones that DO have convictions and DO deliver.

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