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A Wackadoodle extravaganza

Timothy Kincaid

September 7th, 2010

In times past it hasn’t been always easy to distinguish between the garden variety of conservative activist, and the wackadoodles. You had to pay attention; both held conservative positions, but some did so because of logic or principles or tradition or even hesitancy towards change while others came across as obsessed, irrational, or frankly (in some cases) insane.

For example a conservative may oppose President Obama’s healthcare policies, but yet not believe that the President really was born in Kenya. He may favor controlled immigration policies without thinking that Hispanics are seeking to take over the Southwest and make it part of Mexico. She may oppose marriage equality and yet not declare that opposing the rights of gay people is the last best hope of saving Western Civilization from utter and immediate destruction.

But lately its becoming ever easier to distinguish between conservatives and raving loons on the right (and, yes, the left has their raving loons as well). In a somewhat unexpected move the conservatives and the wackadoodles seem to be sorting themselves out for our convenience and gay rights seems to be the determining factor.

Some conservatives have either dropped or repackaged their positions on gay issues, now stating objections to nomenclature or timing rather than just displaying animus towards gay people in general. Now it isn’t gay people serving in the military that is concerning, but just waiting for reports and analysis and opinions. It isn’t gay couples that are destroying society, but just the words used to describe them. Policies may not have moved significantly for all (but certainly have for some) but the language and the attitude has markedly changed.

Even gay and gay-supportive Republicans are not enemies seeking to destroy from within, but good Republicans with whom we disagree on some issues. In fact, rather than be RINOs, they may even be wives of Republican Presidents or nominees.

But while some conservatives have had a change of heart (or figured out which way the wind is blowing), others have abandoned all pretense of reasonableness and have run shrieking into crazyville. They see those who have moderated their position as traitors, and with each new act of treason they lash out at their newfound enemies and band closer with the purists, the true conservatives… oh what am I saying… the raging loons.

And now, in a display of what can only be seen as total meltdown, the wackadoodles have now broken from CPAC, the convention of very conservative ideologues, to form their very own extra-special-uber-conservative convention, the Taking America Back National Conference sponsored by World Net Daily. And I certainly hope there are enough red noses and clown shoes to go around.

Not just anyone is quite wackadoodle enough for this convention. They booted Ann Coulter for daring to speak to GOProud – a very conservative gay group which endorses politicians that Log Cabin would never get near. Although I think GOProud verges on loony themselves, they have Teh Gey!!

You see, hating Teh Gey is a very very important distinction for this wackadoodle extravaganza, and they aren’t going to forgive anyone who does it by half. To get a sense of WND’s purpose and criteria,

WND’s “Taking America Back National Conference” in Miami, Sept. 16-18, was conceived and organized, in part, because of the conservative movement’s capitulation to the radical homosexual agenda:

* The Conservative Political Action Conference welcomed GOProud as a co-sponsor of the largest annual gathering of conservatives this year. CPAC has already gleefully announced the return of GOProud as a sponsor next year – even though GOProud’s inclusion cost the conference Sarah Palin and other top-notch speakers and some long-time co-sponsors.

* The executive director of CPAC is actively promoting GOProud’s “Homocon” conference in New York later this month.

* Conservative leader Grover Norquist, founder of Americans for Tax Reform, serves on the board of GOProud.

* One of the most well-established conservative media companies in America is run by a homosexual activist.

* Conservative celebrity Glenn Beck announced on Fox News that he doesn’t believe same-sex marriage will hurt America.

* Conservative celebrity Ann Coulter agreed to deliver the keynote speech to GOProud’s “Homocon” event in New York later this month – an engagement being shamelessly exploited by the group as further affirmation of its conservative bona fides.

While all of this was happening, there was no more than an undercurrent of conservative protest.

And why is this important? Remember that whole Western Civilization thing I mentioned? I wasn’t kidding.

Because I don’t believe there is any development that could more quickly destroy America’s ability to remain a self-governing society and the very fabric of western civilization than the tacit acceptance of [pro-gay] ideas – ideas that are steamrolling over our political and media culture.

There is no compromising with radical ideas like this. They need to be soundly rejected, repudiated, exposed and discarded.

Yes, my friends, there is a growing separation between the conservatives and the true-blue wackadoodles. And they are ever so gracious as to let us know exactly where they stand. True most conservatives are not going to start championing our rights any time soon, but as this divide grows I believe that we will find fewer and fewer rational conservatives willing to be seen as part of the coalition of birthers and the conspiracy theorists and the wild-eyed loons.

In addition to the WND staff and few obscure politicians, the wackadoodle extravaganza includes:

Michele Bachmann – US House of Representatives
Alan Keyes – political gadfly and onetime presidential candidate
Tom Tancredo – Former Congressman and illegal immigrant opponent
Chuck Missler – Koinonia House (post-prison) Ministry
Rusty Humphries – The Rusty Humphries Show
Matt Barber – Liberty Counsel
Gary DeMar – American Vision
Michael Farris – Home School Legal Defense Association
Robert Knight – Coral Ridge Ministries
Jerry Newcombe – Coral Ridge Ministries
William Federer – American Minute
William Murray – Religious Freedom Coalition
Doug Giles – Clash Radio
Gary Cass – Christian Anti-Defamation Commission
Judith Reisman – Freud revisionist
Victoria Jackson – Conservative Activist/Celebrity
RC Sproul, Jr. – Biblical Economics
Tim Daughtry – Patriot Coaching
Floyd Brown – ExposeObama.com
Mark Graham – First Founders Financial

And that, my friends, is a whole lotta crazy. I wonder if Brian Brown is going to join them.

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Lindoro Almaviva
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

You know what is the best thing about this? The fact that they will eventually start attacking each other in order to prove thir purity and eventually implode. This will only help us, given how many people are just running as far as they can from them right now.

Any chance anyone can convince Sara ap-Palin-g to join their ranks?

MJC
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

Hilarious…that is a ship of fools, if ever there was one. Once I read the first three names, I couldn’t stop laughing.

David Foreman
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

“If Jesus wasn’t concerned about ‘taking Israel back for God’ by political means, why would any who align themselves with his kingdom aspire to ‘take back America for God’ by these means?”
“Did Jesus ever suggest by word or example that we should aspire to acquire, let alone take over, the power of Caesar? Did Jesus spend any time and energy trying to improve, let alone dominate, the reigning government of his day? Does any author in the New Testament remotely hint that engaging in this sort of activity has anything to do with the kingdom of God?
The answer to all these questions is, of course, no.”
— Gregory A Boyd.

They’re trying to take back an America that never belonged to them in the first place.

VapoRob
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

“Although I think GOProud verges on loony themselves, they have Teh Gey!!”

I’ve been seeing these words “Teh Gey” more and more lately, please tell me it’s a miss spelling, otherwise I’m really confused.

VapoRob
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

I find it great that the big tent of the republicans really isn’t all that big. Let their groups divide, let them be seen as the hateful bigots that they are. Though the Tea Baggers don’t seem to be concerned of same sex marriage as a whole, some of the Tea Baggers on the list like Michele Bachmann I know despise us.

Matthew
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

I always thought Victoria Jackson was funny seeing her speak for “Taking Back America” just dissapoints me.

cooner
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

Was gonna say the same thing, Matthew, it disappoints me seeing Victoria Jackson throwing herself in with this lot.

I know, I know, she’s only an actress, we don’t know her personally and can’t presume to know her personality or political bent. But still, she was in UHF for gosh sakes … UHF!! *sigh*

kev
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

I think Robert Knight is with Family “Research” Council, not Coral Ridge Ministries. Probably a typo.

The salient point is that’s he’s a major whackadoodle; in that you are 100% correct.

kev
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

I take it back. Robert Knight IS with Coral Ridge! He was with CMI and CWA, not FRC. I get my bigot alphabet soup mixed up sometimes. He is also the author of DOMA, he actually wrote it and DOJ still defends it with wackadoodle arguments.

MattNYC
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

Someone finds Victoria Jackson funny??? Boy that’s news to me.

Stephanie Miller often plays clips of VJ’s appearances on Fox and frankly–they are FAR funnier than ANYTHING she ever did on SNL (until you realize she is batsh*t crazy serious).

pepa
September 7th, 2010 | LINK

“..and fewer rational conservatives willing to be seen as part of the coalition of birthers and the conspiracy theorists and the wild-eyed loons.”

So for those of us who question the citizenship of the president and have other questions concerning the federal government, we are now fair game and with the stroke of your paint brush, Tim, we are all associated with the anti-gay haters?

There are too many WND who do believe that Obama is a citizen. And there are many of them who do not. But I do not believe in WND’s stance on gay issues, I find them abhorrent.

So under your logic, Tim, one who supports gay marriage (like I do) must also not question the President’s citizenship even though he fails to provide a birth certificate or at least a copy of such document?

werdna
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

@Vapo Rob
The phrase is “teh ghey” and yes, it’s often employed ironically to satirize folks who are inordinately concerned about (real or suspected) gayness in others.

Timothy’s spelling is non-standard, though. In other words, he manages to spell the deliberately misspelled words wrong. It’s a bit like when a teen’s dad tries to use the slang of the moment and gets it wrong: you roll your eyes, but it’s still kind of endearing.

Richard Rush
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

And now, in a display of what can only be seen as total meltdown, the wackadoodles have now broken from CPAC, the convention of very conservative ideologues, to form their very own extra-special-uber-conservative convention, the Taking America Back National Conference sponsored by World Net Daily.

I think they meant to say Taking America Backwards.
And isn’t it fitting that the acronym is TAB?

Is anyone else old enough to remember the original TaB cola from the early 1960’s? It was arguably the worst diet cola of all time – a product totally devoid of substance that left a bad aftertaste in your mouth. It’s been reinvented several times since then, but always manages to still be disgusting.

Richard Rush
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

After clicking on the photo to see the larger version, I noticed the embellished Christian crosses atop the fence posts. Nice touch. Did you add those, Timothy?

TJMcFisty
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Pepa, Prez released his birth certificate. Prima facie evidence. It’s over, and the score is against irrationality:
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf

Birferism belongs on Tim’s list.

Ben in Oakland
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Vaporob– as a bad typist myself, I can tell you where Teh Gay came from.

While you are furiously blogging because someone on the internet is wrong, your fingers get confused. And because the wrongessness must be corrected immediately, proof reading is a luxury you cannot afford.

I used to type Teh Gay all the time I may have originated it.

I still type it.

Jon
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

“One of the most well-established conservative media companies in America is run by a homosexual activist.”

What company is this?

As for “teh ghey,” it ultimately derives from leet-speak and other forms of internet slang. “teh” is just the common misspelling of “the” — a mistake mostly made by people typing furiously during an online video game or by slackers who don’t proofread anything they ever write on forums and bulletin boards and whatnot. More self-aware online denizens started using “teh” deliberately to mock the kinds of people who make the mistake unintentionally.

As for “ghey,” it may have started as a deliberate misspelling used by members of a group (in this case, uber-cool (in their own minds) online gaming geeks) to indicate their membership in the group. It may also have arisen because there have been many online games over the years that have censored “offensive” speech — so that if you typed “f*ck you,” it would appear as “&*$# you.” Some of those games treated the word “gay” as offensive speech (because most of the time players were using it as an insult). So players came up with deliberate misspellings that would allow them to bypass the automated censors while still getting their meaning across. And then those misspellings became commonplace as, again, indicators of group membership.

So you definitely have people out in the world who use “teh ghey” as an insult. But you also have people who use it as a way to mock the people who believe that calling someone gay is an insult.

Timothy Kincaid
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Timothy’s spelling is non-standard, though. In other words, he manages to spell the deliberately misspelled words wrong.

Hey, it’s a talent.

I’ve seen it spelled both ways, and didn’t realize that we now have a standard spelling for Teh Ghey (I still prefer the other without the “h” as I think it’s more obvious – but whatever, I’ll go along)

I use it with definition 3: “to satirize ignorant people who actually consider homosexuality to be a disease or mental illness.” And, incidentally, when I type it I hear Margaret Cho doing a comedy bit about her mother.

Timothy Kincaid
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Richard,

no the picture is untouched.

Ray
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

I think the better question is not “if” Brian Brown will join them but “when” will he join them.

BobN
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

“and, yes, the left has their raving loons as well”

We’ve always had them and we always will. They stand on street corners and hand out screeds, their own or someone else’s. No one pays them much attention and NO ONE bankrolls them to the tune of tens of millions a year.

That’s the difference between leftwing wackos and rightwing wackos: $$$$$$.

Jason D
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

“must also not question the President’s citizenship even though he fails to provide a birth certificate or at least a copy of such document?”

The President has provided legally valid proof that has been verified by the state of Hawaii.
Most rational people accepted the fact that if the state of Hawaii is going on record, then the matter is resolved.

Dave H
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

When i first heard of GOProud, I rolled my eyes and shrugged them off as something I’ll never understand.

I doubt that I will ever align with their viewpoints, but I must say they are doing a terrific job of provoking just the sort of schism in conservative circles that this article describes. I think they may be doing us a great service! And for that, I thank them.

I think the era of using gay-bashing as a fundraising tool and as an election wedge issue to drive voter turnout is noticeably declining. Hating on “teh gheys” doesn’t sell so well any more.

Timothy Kincaid
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Jason,

It may also be worth noting that the Governor of Hawaii at the time is a Republican.

Jason D
September 8th, 2010 | LINK

Timothy, Good point, I wanted to be brief because, well, you know me, not exactly short on words.

TJMcFisty
September 9th, 2010 | LINK

It shouldn’t matter one bit as to the Governor’s party affiliation. And Fukino’s word should be sufficient as she’s the custodian of the records. Governor’s is a only a kicker. Why this cannot settle the matter leads to the most irrational discussions–Nordyke twins and 60s numbering, TWO natural born citizen parents, Indonesian dual citizenship, Dunham passports…insanity and wrong.

I spend a lot of time these days with birferism as it’s immensely entertaining and the lawsuit scorecard usually shuts it down. Orly “Queen Birf” Taitz paid up the $20k. It’s over, but the birfers don’t seem to recognize this.

And it’s off-topic. Sorry. Go gay marriage!

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