Shirvell fired

Timothy Kincaid

November 8th, 2010

Having finally been determined to be too much of an embarrassment to work for the Michigan Attorney General’s office as an assistant DA (something I knew immediately), Andrew Shirvell has been fired by his boss (and onetime defender) Mike Cox. (Ann Arbor)

Shirvell was fired for using state resources for his campaign against University of Michigan student body President Chris Armstrong and for lying to investigators during his disciplinary hearing, Attorney General Mike Cox said in a statement.

That and making a fool of himself on television repeatedly.


November 8th, 2010

What’s sad is he’ll probably be hired by the Liberty Council and join Matt Barber as the next great martyr.

Scott P.

November 8th, 2010

I agree with Scott. This will probably make his career (until he’s caught in an airport men’s room).

Timothy Kincaid

November 8th, 2010


You’re probably right… but that’s a good thing. The more blithering idiots hired by Liberty Council, the better.

Eventually, their entire legal team will show up to court with big red noses all crammed together in a tiny car only to hop out and throw a bucket of confetti on the judge.

Richard W. Fitch

November 8th, 2010

Oh, Timothy! Where is the “LIKE” button when you need it??!!??

Scott P.

November 8th, 2010

Is the plural of Scott Scotts, or Scotti???

Regan DuCasse

November 8th, 2010

Nail, hit, hammer there Scott.

Let LC get all the nutcases they can. And perhaps they’ll look to SCOTUS, just like they actually ARE in the real world.

A bunch of incompetent, non credible, obsessed believers.
Who know nothing of the Constitution, nor care about it, unless it’s for their exclusive protection and manipulation.

Shirvell has this legacy to back himself up.
Hee hee, I’d pay to see HIM try and be before ANY court in the future.


November 9th, 2010

“The more blithering idiots hired by Liberty [Counsel], the better. Eventually, their entire legal team will show up to court with big red noses all crammed together in a tiny car only to hop out and throw a bucket of confetti on the judge.”



November 9th, 2010

“A bunch of incompetent, non credible, obsessed believers.
Who know nothing of the Constitution, nor care about it, unless it’s for their exclusive protection and manipulation.”

So in other words they read the Constitution as they read the Bible?


November 9th, 2010

Honestly, I hate to say it but I’m still waiting to get my gaydar repaired from when I saw this idiot being interviewed on TV. I’ve never had an anti-gay person trip my gaydar as badly as he did.

Not only that, but he was basically stalking that college student. He could very well be charged and if convicted he could be disbarred depending on the exact charges.

“Eventually, their entire legal team will show up to court with big red noses all crammed together in a tiny car only to hop out and throw a bucket of confetti on the judge.”

Isn’t that what all the Amicus Briefs and filings RE: the Proposition 8 appeal were? I seem to remember someone saying basically that a bucket of confetti would be easier to read than some of those legal briefs.


November 9th, 2010

Oh by the way, Andrew Shirvell made me ashamed to admit I’m from Michigan for a while.

Priya Lynn

November 9th, 2010

Now that he’s lost his job I wonder if he feels his campaign against Chris Armstrong was worth it.


November 9th, 2010

No because he didn’t get that booty *cough cough* oops I mean convert that boy.

I really, really got a creepy stalker vibe off Shirvell, that and he struck me as very over-the-top feminine, which really just made him seem more creepy especially since in the interview he kept going on and on about Christianity vs. Teh Gay.

Dude’s got some issues, I hope he resolves them someday.

Paul in Canada

November 9th, 2010

I hope somebody he trusts offers/insists he get some counselling or this sap is going to go postal, especially if he’s disbarred.

B John

November 9th, 2010

Paul has it right. Armstrong withdrew his motion for a protective order a while back, but his attorney is doing him a grave disservice if she does not re-file that.

Whatever’s wrong with Shirvell, it definitely appears he’s not stable. He’s constructed a comfortable world for himself which serves to protect him from his deepest darkest secrets. He’s lost his job, and he may well be disbarred, so he’s sitting home with lots of time on his hands as that life crumbles.

He’s already shown a penchant for displacing blame by saying it was all caused by the liberal media. As things get worse for him, he’ll start blaming the object is his obsession, and it won’t be the obsession he blames, but the object. I’m afraid Armstrong is in some danger.


November 9th, 2010

B John – according to Armstrong’s attorney, who was on AC 360 last night, they decided against pursuing the personal protection order (PPO) because apparently they are pretty difficult to get under MI law if one is not in a domestic violence situation. Because Shirvell had been barred from the Michigan campus and had stopped his stalking, they decided to go for disbarment instead, and both Armstrong and his attorney have filed separate disbarment complaints.

On the other hand, I really hope Armstrong does not let his guard down now. I get a really creepy vibe off of Shirvell, far weirder than his clear self-hating of his sexuality. He reminds me just a bit too much of my cousin’s ex-husband, who tried to kill her on several occassions. No one knows what caused Shirvell to fixate on Armstrong, but I doubt losing his job is going to lessen the fixation.

B John

November 9th, 2010

Thanks for the clarification on the PPO CPT_Doom.

I get that same creepy feeling from Shirvell. It’s kind of that “if I can’t have you, no one can,” sort of feeling. The stalking and obsession has very much the feel of a highly volatile domestic relationship (unrequieted though it may be). I spent many years in the funeral business, seen it all, and this just has that feel to it like the situation with your cousin.

The guy has lost a pretty cushy job. He could very well be disbarred. He’s become a national joke. None of the usual suspects has risen to his defense. I’ve joked, along with others about his being hired by FRC or Focus on The Family, but the truth is he’s a pretty hot potato, so his prospects, law license or not, are probably bleak now. As the money dwindles, the pressure is only going to increase.

He’s going to be sitting around with nothing else to do but obsess about his situation. For someone already on the edge, that’s just not a healthy thing.

Timothy Kincaid

November 9th, 2010

Ya know, I’m pretty skeptical of armchair analysis, but in this case I hate to say that I think y’all are right. If I were Armstrong, I’d be careful. Sometimes someone is so off kilter that it is impossible to miss and Shirvell is one odd duck.

It makes me wonder how he got such a prestigious job. Even political cronyism doesn’t like to get too close to someone who is this bizarre.

I wonder if he comes across as more sane in person or if he’s just gotten obviously wacky fairly recently.

Emily K

November 9th, 2010

A lot of the “armchair analysts” out there have said he must have an intense crush on Armstrong, manifesting as intense jealousy and anger. Armstrong is the man he wants, and the man he wants to be (out, adjust, successful).

I’ve seen things like that happen before. I think this particular armchair analysis is correct or close to it. And yes I support taking on further protections.

Regan DuCasse

November 9th, 2010

How’s this for armchair analysis?

That boy ain’t right…


November 10th, 2010

Regan — I think you’ve hit on something there. If he weren’t such a twat, I’d feel bad for Shirvell… what could be going on for someone that they sacrifice everything they’ve worked for over such insipid weirdness?


November 10th, 2010

My apologies in advance to anyone who takes offense to my use of the t* word. I really just like how it rolls off the tongue. If I’m out of line, I stand correctable.


November 10th, 2010


I think you just nailed it.


November 10th, 2010

@ Cpt. Doom: Yeah, now that you mention that I remember. I’d actually considered getting a PPO against my ex-wife due to HER stalking ME. But, since the situation was similar. (We were both going to college, and she got banned from the dorm after doing a bunch of REALLY CREEPY things one day.) after her getting a visit from Public Safety alone played hell with her life I left it at that. (She was staying with someone, not on the lease, and got kicked out.)

“It makes me wonder how he got such a prestigious job. Even political cronyism doesn’t like to get too close to someone who is this bizarre.”

@ Tim: I live in Michigan, the local paper had a blurb about this that I saw last night and Shirvell was Mike Cox’s campaign manager previously.

You know what really wierds me out? I remember reading somewhere (I don’t remember if it was here or somewhere else) that Shirvell was a graduate of Ave Maria law school (FundieCatholic, started by Tom Monoghan) I have to wonder how in the hell such a feminine dude as Shirvell made it through there without being questioned enough times to get aggravated and quit. Like I said, he seems very gay. I’d think that’d raise a lot of eyebrows in that sort of school.

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