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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyDecember 13th, 2010
It turns out that the actual bill number to repeal DADT is Senate Bill 4023. Although the text of the bill is not available, it is reported to be the same as was proposed in the defense bill. This bill appears not to have been sent to committee.
The current list of co-sponsors is:
Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I-CT]
Susan Collins [R-ME]
Daniel Akaka [D-HI]
Michael Bennet [D-CO]
Jeff Bingaman [D-NM]
Barbara Boxer [D-CA]
Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Chris Coons [D-DE]
Christopher Dodd [D-CT]
Richard Durbin [D-IL]
Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
Al Franken [D-MN]
Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
Thomas Harkin [D-IA]
John Kerry [D-MA]
Frank Lautenberg [D-NJ]
Patrick Leahy [D-VT]
Carl Levin [D-MI]
Blanche Lincoln [D-AR]
Robert Menéndez [D-NJ]
Jeff Merkley [D-OR]
Patty Murray [D-WA]
Harry Reid [D-NV]
Mark Udall [D-CO]
Tom Udall [D-NM]
Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]
Ron Wyden [D-OR]
It is worth noting that Blanch Lincoln, who voted against cloture last time, is now a co-sponsor. Those highlighed serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Meanwhile, in the “almost too stupid for words” category, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), the sole Democratic Senator to vote against cloture in this past go-around, explained his vote this way:
Again, I was only here three weeks…didn’t know much about the issue.
So, not knowing the full details, Manchin decided the best thing to do was to vote against the advice of his President, every other member of his Party, the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the results of a year long study, and ever poll taken within the past half-decade.
Un-huh. Me thinks that he was using the “when in doubt, vote anti-gay” principle.
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Ryan
December 13th, 2010
Manchin also used the whole line of BS about how he believes repeal will be “soon” just not now, even though he knows full well repeal will be impossible once the GOP retakes the House. At least be upfront about your prejudices, Joe. I have a feeling he’ll be wooed by the Republicans to caucus with them sometime next year.
L. Junius Brutus
December 13th, 2010
According to Thomas.loc.gov:
12/10/2010:
Introduced in the Senate. Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time.
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As for Manchin, what do you expect from a West Virginia senator who just squeaked by despite being immensely popular in his state?
daftpunkydavid
December 14th, 2010
thanks for the update, mr kincaid.
tavdy79
December 14th, 2010
Manchin’s up for reelection in 2012, and he’s newly elected – an easy target.
Paul J. Stein
December 14th, 2010
Well, ya’ll never want to seem like ya likes dem gay folks too much.After all someone has to do yore grannie and mammaws hair dont they? We just dont want them soldier boys a thinking they can get by with their boy buddies likes dere pregnant gonna be wife back home here. Now before any rude comments,,,I have lived in the VERY MOST BACK PARTS of TENNESEE, and loved it, N.C. too! Married a Tennesee redneck indian woman too!
John
December 14th, 2010
Considering the amount of media coverage on this issue, how could Manchin not know much about the issue? Pretty flimsy excuse.
Hall
December 14th, 2010
Blanche Lincoln never voted against cloture. She showed up three minutes too late.
This means only two votes are needed. Murkowski, Snowe, or Brown perhaps?
Leroy
December 14th, 2010
I might add that 58% of combat Marines and 48% of combat Army troops are opposed. And that’s directly from the unfair, unscientific, forgone conclusion of a study that was recently completed. Also, three out of the four Chiefs of Staff are opposed.
“Un-huh. Me thinks that he was using the ‘when in doubt, vote anti-gay’ principle.”
It’s possible that Manchin just saw what happened on November 2nd and decided that it probably wasn’t wise to be a flaming liberal. But here’s another consideration. Maybe he’s thinking, “When in doubt, don’t do anything that can’t be reversed later.”
The homosexual genie cannot be put back in the bottle. If he’s really not all that aware of the arguments on both sides, it makes sense that he would stick with the status quo. DADT can be repealed later (not that it should be), but BAGAYWTB (Be as Gay As You Want to be) can never be reversed.
Timothy Kincaid
December 14th, 2010
Leroy,
Actually only one of the four chiefs can be described as “opposed”. One wants repeal with a delayed date and the other wants repeal but not yet.
But you are right that within the 30% that cared enough to respond to the survey, one subset of one division of the Military has a majority that opposes repeal.
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