Four Hasidic Jews protest DADT repeal

Timothy Kincaid

December 21st, 2010

Sometimes you just have to marvel at how people can miss the obvious. (LoHud.com)

Braving the cold weather, four men from the Hasidic Jewish community in Monsey picketed Monday afternoon just outside of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point to protest gays serving openly in the military.

Solomon Diamant, one of the protesters, said they were appalled by the Senate vote that ended the 17-year-old “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

“Only God can establish what’s wrong and what’s right. We cannot uproot his rules,” Diamant said. “The whole LGBT agenda is evil,” using the abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.

Darned right! This is a Christian Nation, based on Christian Principles, and we should live according to what God has set out in the Bible! The whole Christian Bible.

Oh… that wasn’t what you meant?

L. Junius Brutus

December 21st, 2010

Religious radicals of the world, unite, no matter your religion!

Scott P.

December 21st, 2010

Hmmm, if memory serves me correctly, the Hasidim in Israel don’t serve in the military on religious grounds. Isn’t that the same here? If so, it takes a LOT of chutzpah for them to dare to even come near the gates of West Point, let alone protest against the repeal!

Mana

December 21st, 2010

Every religion has its nutjobs, but you’d really think that after a couple thousand years of anti-Semitic persecution, even hardcore conservatives would have some sense knocked into them.

EZam

December 21st, 2010

I wonder if those Hasidics would rather live in a Muslim country.

Emily K

December 21st, 2010

Scott P. is right, the Haredi in Israel don’t serve in the army. They also get a LOT of tax money to sit around and study. Basically, thanks to their clout, they’ve voted the state of Israel into supporting them carte blanche.

And yes I doubt many of the evangelicals in the gates would take very kindly to them. (Then again, the evangelicals might learn a thing or two about the Torah.)

Regan DuCasse

December 21st, 2010

That’s FOUR guys, right?

The controversial Rabbi Shmuely Boteach recently wrote that anyone who doesn’t want talented and committed gay soldiers to serve in an all volunteer military, better be prepared to strap on a rifle and dodge bullets themselves.

SOMEBODY has to protect one’s country and it’s citizens.

This is definitely one of those STFU times for these protesters.

Ben in Oakland

December 21st, 2010

As an occasional Jew, I always find it amazing when Jews, of ALL people, can find it in their hearts to justify a hatred/fear/superiority/ignorance towards a group of people they do not know, know nothing about, and who have done them no harm except to exist.

“Only God can establish what’s wrong and what’s right. We cannot uproot his rules,” Diamant said. “The whole LGBT agenda is evil,” using the abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. Substitute “Jewish” for LGBT and you have the basic philosophy of the Third Reich…

…which in turn found it’s justification in 2000 years of official anti-semitism.

And here is htat lovely man, Martin Luther, on this very same subject:

Section XI of the Luther’s “On the Jews and Thier Lies” contains a series of seven points, in some of which Luther calls (1) for Jewish synagogues and schools to be set on fire and razed to the ground, (2) for houses owned by Jews to be likewise razed, 3) for rabbis to be forbidden to preach, and to be executed if they do, (4) for safe conduct on the roads to be abolished for Jews, 5) for the Jewish population, whom he elsewhere refers to as “venomous, bitter worms”, to be put to work as agricultural slave labor.

Charming.

Ben in Oakland

December 21st, 2010

I couldn’t resist it. I sent a somewhat expanded and spell-corrected version of the above to http://www.Torahjewsfordecency.org, who are no better than yuou would expect them to be. They are the sponsorso f that little four man love fest. Here it is.

Sir:

I cannot call you Rabbi, for it is clear you need to learn more than other people need you to teach.

As a Jew, I always find it amazing when Jews, of ALL people, can find it in their hearts to justify a hatred/fear/superiority/ignorance towards a group of people they do not know, know nothing about, and who have done them no harm except to exist, and offend their current notions of what is proper.

In an article upon your protest of the end of DADT, one of your men said: “Only God can establish what’s wrong and what’s right. We cannot uproot his rules. The whole LGBT agenda is evil,” using the abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.

Charming.

That’s one of Hashem’s rules? Which one? Substitute “Jewish” for LGBT and you have the basic philosophy of the Third Reich, which in turn found its justification in 2000 years of official anti-Semitism.

Speaking of which, here is that lovely man, Martin Luther, on this very same subject. Section XI of the Luther’s “On the Jews and Thier Lies” contains a series of seven points, in some of which Luther calls (1) for Jewish synagogues and schools to be set on fire and razed to the ground, (2) for houses owned by Jews to be likewise razed, 3) for rabbis to be forbidden to preach, and to be executed if they do, (4) for safe conduct on the roads to be abolished for Jews, 5) for the Jewish population, whom he elsewhere refers to as “venomous, bitter worms”, to be put to work as agricultural slave labor.

Also charming.

You should be ashamed of yourself, but self-righteousness knows no shame. There is no room for it.

Lindoro Almaviva

December 21st, 2010

remember my comment on "Countdown till the HRC claims that they worked tirelessly to repeal DADT"?

 

Apparently that countdown was like 3, 2, 1… liftoff!

Rob San Diego

December 21st, 2010

If GOD hated us, don’t you think he would come down and talk to us? Or maybe he would send his daughter to teach us his ways. he already tried sending down his son and look what happened to him, we murdered and executed him. Now if you were GOD, wouldn’t you be pissed off at your creations and never talk to them again?

TampaZeke

December 21st, 2010

Why should ANYONE care what a Hasidic Jew has to say about military service?

Next thing you know they’ll be picketing the Jimmy Dean sausage factory complaining that gays shouldn’t allowed to eat pork.

BlackDog

December 22nd, 2010

Funny how the people bitching about the DADT repeal the most are those who never served in the military.

Aside from John McCain I don’t think I’ve heard of any veterans making a big deal of it.

Most of the people crying about it the most didn’t serve, and probably have never had to work all that hard or been on the wrong end of prejudice themselves.

The Hasidim have it pretty easy. Here maybe not as much but in Israel, um, yeah. I’d LOVE to get paid just to sit around and study all day, not to mention be allowed to live where I want even if it’s where somebody else’s village used to be and the Army has to shed blood to defend me. So maybe if these Hasidim don’t like it here now that we have gays in the military…they could move to Israel?

Oh. Wait. Israel has had gays in its military for years, serving openly even.

I guess that counts these four out, eh?

Aeval

December 23rd, 2010

“Only God can establish what’s wrong and what’s right. We cannot uproot his rules,”

So why are they upset about the DADT repeal, was DADT a divine comandment?

e2c

December 27th, 2010

I highly recommend the documentary
“Trembling Before G-d” (mainly about Hasidim who are LGBTQ) to those protesters, as well as to commenters here.

I just cannot imagine the kinds of pressures that non-conforming Hasidim are under – regardless of sexual orientation. It reminds me a little too much of the way the most severe Old Order Amish churches treat those who don’t quite fit in. [shivers]

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