Think of the Birds!!!

Jim Burroway

January 10th, 2011

Anti-gay activists put forward a dizzying array of arguments against the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” But now that the old policy is on the way out the door, Cindy Jacobs of Generals International asked, in her torturous attempt at English, the question that nobody else thought to ask: What about the birds???

But the blackbirds fell to the ground in Beebe, Arkansas, well the Governor of Arkansas’ name is Beebe. And also, there was something put out of Arkansas called Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell by a former Governor, this was proposed, Bill Clinton. As so, could there be a connection between this passage [Hosea 4] and now that we’ve had the repeal of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell where people now legally in the United States have broken restraints with the Scripture because the Scripture says in Romans 1 that homosexuality is not allowed.

[Via Right Wing Watch]

Penguinsaur

January 10th, 2011

Terrible strategy on her part. If she actually convinces someone in the military that allowing gays to serve openly caused death on a massive scale they’re just gonna speed up the repeal of DADT so they can weaponize us.

Timothy Kincaid

January 10th, 2011

Edwin

January 10th, 2011

Sounds to me like we have another nut case running around loose. Why don’t these people put their thoughts to some good use?

ebohlman

January 10th, 2011

I’d like some of what she’s smoking.

Seriously, this sort of free association, like finding great significance in the name of a town being the same as the name of a person, seems to reflect either intoxication, thought disorder, or extreme cognitive immaturity (it’s the sort of “reasoning” you might expect from a little kid).

I suspect that there are a lot of aspects of fundamentalism that promote childish reasoning. Some of this is historical, stemming from attempts to preach the Gospel in rural areas where people typically had a third-grade reading level (see Hofstatder’s Anti-Intellectualism in American Life). And self-selection into communities of the like-minded probably reinforces this.

It can be difficult, from a distance, to distinguish between true psychotic delusions and communally-reinforced irrational beliefs (what I call CRIBs). There’s genuinely a difference in the mechanisms by which they arise; true delusions are the result of a malfunctioning brain, whereas CRIBs are the result of “normal” brain activity leading people down blind alleys (thus, for example, anti-psychotic medications aren’t going to affect CRIBs).

Religion, of course, is a major contributor to CRIBs, and certain personality types are more susceptible to CRIBs than others, but it’s still a different phenomenon from mental illness, and the fact that guidelines for diagnosing delusional disorders generally make an exception for shared religious beliefs doesn’t, as some atheists assert, mean the religion is “getting a pass”; it just means that irrational religious beliefs typically arise from a different mechanism than true delusions (and there are, of course, true religious delusions that don’t follow the CRIB pattern, and diagnostic guidelines don’t make exceptions for them).

Andrew

January 10th, 2011

@Penguinsaur – Weaponised gays! Can you think of anything the right wing fears more?

Timothy said it best however.

Richard Rush

January 10th, 2011

Or is Cindy Jacobs just a scam artist? After all, religion is a scam artist’s best friend.

Joe in California

January 10th, 2011

One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest!!!

I started to laugh. Then it hit me that she was very very scarwee. I became vewee vewee afwaid…

Please tell me she’s from a cable community access channel…

Ray

January 10th, 2011

Scripture says in Romans 1 that homosexuality is not allowed.
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Um, no. It’s not merely a little no-no in Romans 1. “Not allowed” is more what you tell the children not to do when the baby is sleeping.

Romans 1:32 is the death sentence, So don’t try and butter it up like you’re scolding a child for cutting the lunch room line. I realize the verse is about idolatry but it’s being used far and wide to justify the literal death of gays by biblical authority.

Clear?

Rob San Diego

January 10th, 2011

Sounds like the nut heads at West Borrow Baptist Church, (minus the God hates fags part). I wonder if GOD is retro-active in his punishments, since he controls space and time, Katrina, 9/11, Asian tsunami, Chili & Haiti earthquake all make sense, it’s da gay’s fault.

But then again, 9/11, Katrina, and the Asian tsunami all happened after the 2000 and 2004 elections where the republicans won. I wonder if God punished us for those elections?

Ryan

January 10th, 2011

I’ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community? Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun “Sarah Palin is crazy!” way, but genuinely mentally ill.

Richard Rush

January 10th, 2011

I don’t recall ever hearing Cindy or any of the other renowned religious nuts talk about all the tornadoes that go ripping through the Bible Belt year after year after year. No wonder. It must be embarrassing for them to acknowledge how God is punishing the most religious part of the country for failing to stop the rampant sin in the rest of the country.

Tone

January 10th, 2011

I have a lot of trouble writing off people like this as merely stupid, astounding as her observation is. Jacobs is not stupid, none of the people at her level in their wackadoodle movement are, or they have smarter people behind the scenes directing them.

At no time do I believe that any of the tea party leaders actually really have the best intentions at heart for their nation, not with the dirty tricks and negative politics they use. It’s all a power game to them. They are no less con artists than any glitzy televangelist and just as corrupt. They pander to the fears, prejudices and resentments of perhaps less savvy people, who hang on their every word. They’re turning into America’s Taliban.

I’m not convinced that they even believe much of what they say to the rank and file in their movement. It’s all about maintaining control of their base. We discount and underestimate Palin, Jacobs and all the rest of them them at the risk of our own doom.

But come on, she’s contending that their “loving” god is taking out his wrath on birds? Why not mosquitoes? And what’s with those anal beads around her neck?

justsearching

January 11th, 2011

Unfortunately, it’s not just nut-jobs like this woman who make these sort of associations. John Piper is a great orator, a bright Biblical scholar, and a well-known pastor and author. Despite this, back in 2009 he saw a connection between the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America’s decision to allow openly gay individuals to be part of the clergy and a tornado that hit the area.
http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-tornado-the-lutherans-and-homosexuality

If you believe God can and does communicate to man through nature, then you look for signs of His communication everywhere. You’d think the omnipotent omniscient God that Piper believes in could be a bit clearer in his messages.
If I had seem chasms openings up in the earth and devouring all those wrong-minded Lutherans, or a swarm of snakes to poison all those who didn’t hate gays, or a bear descending from a mountain to maul and destroy those who deserved it… in short, if I had seen some good ol’ fashion Old Testament Judgment, then I’d think twice about my views about allowing gays to openly serve on the front lines of the military and clergy.

BlackDog

January 11th, 2011

“Or is Cindy Jacobs just a scam artist? After all, religion is a scam artist’s best friend.”

She’s a Pentecostal, in that particular branch of Christianity the line between “Preacher” and “Scam Artist” can be very, very fine indeed.

“Please tell me she’s from a cable community access channel…”

I could, but I’d be lying, there are people (though they’re often a bit unhinged themselves) who take her seriously.

“I’ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community? Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun “Sarah Palin is crazy!” way, but genuinely mentally ill.”

That’s not an uncommon reaction among those who are unfamiliar with the Pentecostal subculture, unfortunately, I used to be married to a woman who actually considered Cindy Jacobs to be a “Prophet.” Yes, my ex wife does have a diagnosed mental disorder. I’m not sure about Cindy Jacobs, though.

The bad news is, people actually DO believe this crap.

The good news is most people think “Where the hell do they come up with this crap?”

dave

January 11th, 2011

Imagine having to grasp at straws like this to justify your god?

Theo

January 11th, 2011

Are you people blind? It is so obvious that there is a real connection here.

Consider: what evidence is there that these birds died because of DADT repeal? Answer: None. Which rhymes with Nunn. Who made DADT happen in the first place. How can this possibly be a “coincidence”?

BTW, check out her vids on Youtube where she teams up with Lou Engel. It’s double the crazy.

Jimmy

January 12th, 2011

Do all of these tele-evangabitches shop at the same discount store for their TV clothes? These women are so tacky. It should let everyone watching know that it’s all showbiz. These “preachers” have figured out how to get rich preaching that prosperity gospel – direct it toward the poor and stupid.

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