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Timothy Kincaid

June 17th, 2011

This is what passes for intellect among the anti-gays in California. In a response to the Central California District of the US Bankruptcy Court finding DOMA to violate the constitution, OneNewsNow ran this:

Randy Thomasson, president of, says the ruling is another attack against traditional marriage.

Randy Thomasson”These federal judges should be fired. They are violating their oath of office to uphold the federal law. They are saying they just don’t see any reason for the federal law. They’re not obeying it,” he laments. “It’s not up to them to judge whether they like a law or not — it’s their job to enforce the law.”

The Los Angeles-based court came to the defense of the same-sex couple, who filed the petition after the Obama administration announced it would no longer defend DOMA. The ruling said that DOMA “deprives [the debtors] of the equal protection of the law to which they are entitled.” Thomasson offers this prediction:

“It’s going to go to the U.S. Supreme Court,” he says. “And I predict a 5-4 ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court with Anthony [Anthony] Kennedy being the swing vote.”

(pssst Randy… they aren’t appealing)



June 17th, 2011 | LINK

Seems simple enough to me: when only one side bothers to show up in court, that side wins.

Mark F.
June 17th, 2011 | LINK

I fgind this post insulting to our friends in the mineral community!

Regan DuCasse
June 17th, 2011 | LINK

Someone let me know if I have this straight.
With DOMA in effect, a gay couple isn’t subject to federal laws because they are excluded from them. Regarding bankruptcy anyway, right?

That is to say, you can’t enforce a law or laws against someone you’ve created laws specifically so they aren’t subject to them.

If I have that right and understand this judge’s ruling correctly…
In cruder parlance, proponents of DOMA have stepped on their own dicks.

The unintended consequences of DOMA and other discriminatory laws regarding marriage and so one, are starting to come home.
I never thought it would be this much fun watching the heads explode.

June 18th, 2011 | LINK

Someone needs a class in remedial civics. Not that it would matter.

June 18th, 2011 | LINK

(pssst Randy… they aren’t appealing)

Psssssst, Timothy, you are talking to a box of rocks


June 19th, 2011 | LINK

I find it deliciously ironic that the ad space above this post (at 1135 pm on June 18th) has an ad for Michelle Bachman in 2012…right above the picture of the box of rox…LOL!

June 19th, 2011 | LINK

“It’s not up to them to judge whether they like a law or not — it’s their job to enforce the law.”

Ummmm …….

June 19th, 2011 | LINK

Someone please explain to this fool that it is NOT the job of the judicial branch to enforce the law. Good Lord.

June 20th, 2011 | LINK

Federal judges don’t swear to uphold federal law, they swear (or affirm) that they will uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States. If non-constitutional laws are in conflict with the Constitution, the Constituion prevails.

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