A very special Christmas message to you from Cardinal George

Timothy Kincaid

December 22nd, 2011

This year, Chicago’s Catholic Cardinal, Francis George, has a very special Christmas message:

You don’t want the gay liberation movement to morph into something like the Ku Klux Klan, demonstrating in the streets against Catholicism.”

When the Fox host pointed out that George’s comparison was “a little strong,” the cardinal stood by his statement.

“It is, but you take a look at the rhetoric,” he continued. “The rhetoric of the Klu Klux Klan, the rhetoric of some of the gay liberation people. Who is the enemy? Who is the enemy? The Catholic Church.”

It’s not the customary “peace, good will toward men” Christmas message, but I’m sure he means it from the very bottom of what functions as his heart.


December 22nd, 2011

The Catholic Church is the enemy of all people who abhor child molestors and their protectors, Nazi supporters and their protectors and men who wear frilly dresses, silly hats and gaudy shoes who declaring homosexuals to be the perverts.


December 22nd, 2011

People who are known for wearing white robes and pointy hats should be more careful about throwing around the Klan reference.
…Just sayin’


December 22nd, 2011

@Sharon B. ha-ha-ha ROTFLMAO!


December 22nd, 2011

The enemy isn’t the church itself it’s the men like Cardinal George with in church who are the enemy.

Eric in Oakland

December 23rd, 2011

The Cardinal should spend more time emulating Christ and less time dabbling in politics.

“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

— Matthew 7:3-5

The KKK rhetoric that the Cardinal references was always directed primarily against PEOPLE and not POLITICAL ACTIONS. In other words, they did not hate the Catholic Church so much as they hated Catholic people living amongst them. They hated people who were different from them (other races and religions. They also never tried to harm Catholics worldwide, but only Catholics living amongst them.

On many levels the Cardinal’s analogy fails badly. Unlike the KKK, LGBT activists are not hostile to other groups of people (such as Catholics, which the Cardinal insinuates). The perceived hostility toward the Catholic Church is an opposition to political activity (such as the promotion of Prop 8 and the worldwide condemnation of gay rights) and not an opposition to Catholics in general. Such political activity directly harms LGBT persons everywhere, not only by denying us equality under the law, but also encouraging violence and systematic oppression. Are LGBT organizations doing anything similar to harm Catholics? Of course not!


December 23rd, 2011

Another sad, pathetic, irrelevant, immoral diatribe from a faux-medieval prince, living in a completely imaginary kingdom. It’s just unfortunate that the imaginary kingdom produces actual deleterious effects on real people.


December 23rd, 2011

Eh, Cardinal George sounds scared & confused to me. I pity him.

Ben In Oakland

December 23rd, 2011

This same idiot last year proclaimed that gay people had lost touch with their humanity because we wish to wed each other. Are you in touch with your humanity when you create a marriage doomed to failure becuase you married the opposite sex?

So people that love each other, desire life partnerships, marriage, family, children. and normalcy have lost touch with the human race? I can think of NOTHING more humanthan that.

The Pope wears Prada and ermine, lives in a palace, eats his meals with a golden fork, while millions of children all over the world starve and die.

The church forbids birth control, so millions of thirdworld Catholics have more children they cannot support. My gay brother supported a little girl in the Philippines for years so that her family would not sell her into sexual slavery to support them.

There are thousands of priest molestation cases world wide. the sexual abuse goes back for CENTURIES, documented in boccacio and Chaucer. Meanwhile, A Belgian bishop sees nothing wrong with “taking comfort with children”. Google the phrase.

Centuries of violent hostility towards gay people. And this joker compares a group of largely peaceful people, demanding that the persecution stop, especially that done in the name of Jesus — he compares us to the KKK, deidcated to violence and persecution.

It seems to me that the Catholic pot-entate is calling the KKKettle a Negro

Donny D.

December 23rd, 2011

This looks like yet another salvo in the religious right campaign to pit African-Americans against LGBT people. Maggie Gallagher and others culture warriors have also made odd-seeming tie-ins between LGBT people and racists. I think we should be considering these types of statements as possibly/probably part of a strategy of pitting one marginalized group against another, though when the Religious Right comes out with this kind of crap, nobody besides me seems to comprehend it that way, at least judging from the bloggers that I follow and their commenters.

Bill T.

December 23rd, 2011

Evidently, the Peter Principle (no pun) works within the heirarchy of the Catholic Church. Cardinal George has risen to his own level of incompetence.

Jim Hlavac

December 23rd, 2011

The Cardinal has a gay nephew — his oldest nephew in fact — whom he calls a “fine man” while at the same time calling gay folks in general “intrinsically evil.” Now he has added the KKK to his unholy attack upon us, and I wonder — how will this man sit down to Christmas dinner with his sister, and her son, his nephew, and look that “fine man” in the eye and tell him he’s evil and like the KKK? Is there just no bounds and limits to this man’s depraved and illogical reasoning? I fear not.

Meanwhile, we gay taxpayers pay for the streets down which the Chicago march will go, while the Cardinal sits behind legal walls of not only tax exempt status but bankruptcy lawyers by the bushel to protect the ever dwindling assets of the Church subject to forfeit in their on going attempts to avoid culpability for their child-molestation rings. On top of all that, some 70% of Catholic lay people are demanding that the Church stop using collection monies to fund the prelates’ anti-gay efforts against their own kids and their nephews. It is this very behavior, on display since the dawn of the Church, that led to schism after schism, and the Reformation. There is no help from Jesus for that money grubbing foreign organization on these shores.

Jonathan Justice

December 23rd, 2011

The Cardinal would seem to have missed his logic class. The positions taken by the various versions of the Klan were formal Anti-Catholic Policy positions of their organizations (Hierarchical organizations a while we are at it, not democratic, a distinction we might expect the Cardinal to understand.) The positions he ascribes to the gay liberation movement are positions taken by various individuals and not the formal policies of the community groups that run Gay Pride events in Chicago and other cities. Typically, these groups are fairly democratic, and would, for the most part, welcome individual Catholics, Catholic groups, and even a polite assertion by the local diocese that LGBT persons should enjoy the full protection of civil law and not be lied about or otherwise harmed by persons who wish to think themselves good Catholics.

Timothy Kincaid

December 24th, 2011

When the cardinals get together, I wonder if George wears earplugs. Otherwise he’d know that there are plenty of places in which the gay community and the Church – while not exactly friendly are at least able to peacefully coexist.

And those places are pretty easy to identify. It’s where the Cardinal may spout the church’s position on marriage, for example, but not in the press, not at political rallies, and not in terms dripping with contempt. Gay folks are pretty easy to get along with as a community. Pretty much all you have to do is NOT attack us. You don’t have to like us, just leave us alone and we leave you alone.

If George thinks that “the gay liberation people” see the church as its enemy, that is ENTIRELY his doing.


December 24th, 2011

I have followed the polling of catholic laity about gays, contraception, etc. and was willing to believe that it was leadership that was corrupt and hate-filled. I am no longer so forgiving of ordinary catholics: they cannot deny the criminality of their leadership, their insane hatred of the LGBT community worldwide, and their murder of millions by HIV/AIDS by forbidding the use of condoms yet they sit in their pews and continue to finance these monsters, Sunday after Sunday. How is this any different than funding a terrorist organization? Where’s the vatican spring?


December 24th, 2011

“This same idiot last year proclaimed that gay people had lost touch with their humanity because we wish to wed each other. Are you in touch with your humanity when you create a marriage doomed to failure becuase you married the opposite sex?”

By that same logic…are you in touch with your humanity when you live a completely unnatural life of not having sex at all?? Or worse…when a Priest rapes a child, breaking the law of the state and the spirit of the teachings of Jesus?? Where the hell is the “humanity” in that??

College Jay

December 26th, 2011

You know, because an organization that is founded upon bigotry and the denial of human rights for minorities is exactly the same as a movement whose only goal is the establishment of human rights for a specific minority. It is sad that people like this man are given any sort of platform or authority.

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