Box Turtle Bulletin

Box Turtle BulletinNews, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric
“Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife…”
This article can be found at:
Latest Posts

Giuliani: Republicans not modern enough

Timothy Kincaid

March 1st, 2012

Rudy Giuliani is a moderate Republican who is pro-gay. He generally supports us in our efforts towards having our constitutional rights respected and – as long as he isn’t running for President – he favors marriage equality (except when he doesn’t).

It can be confusing tracking down just where he is on that issue, among others, but it’s clear that Giuliani certainly believes that he is an advocate and ally for the gay community. And, so long as he says stuff like this, he is:

YouTube Preview Image

(And those who complain that I’m being a rah-rah cheerleader for Republicans this week aren’t without some merit. But it’s just how the week has progressed. Don’t worry, my cynical side will kick in any minute.)



March 1st, 2012 | LINK

Ugh, why Burnett. That woman is scourge upon journalism.

March 2nd, 2012 | LINK

Your cynical side? I thought this WAS your cynical side.

March 2nd, 2012 | LINK

The problem with GOP in gay circles is that there is often a reflexive reductionist opposition to all things Republican. That means they don’t get the credit for things they do right (when they do them right), and the leads to the advancement of more of the lunatic right. If we don’t support moderates (where possible), then they will not flourish, and then our ONLY choice is to run to the Dems, who may or may not win against the GOP. It’s far better to be under both tents than to have to beg for shelter in only one.

That said, the GOP has a lot of answering to do. Guiliani has at times been a friend, but at other times he has not, particularly on the issue of gay marriage. If it’s a choice between Guiliani and most Dems, then the Dems are clearly the better friend to us. If it’s a choice between Guiliani and the average Republican, however, he’s an ally.

Difficult to parse, but absolutely required if we’re going to get anywhere.

Leave A Comment

All comments reflect the opinions of commenters only. They are not necessarily those of anyone associated with Box Turtle Bulletin. Comments are subject to our Comments Policy.

(Required, never shared)

PLEASE NOTE: All comments are subject to our Comments Policy.