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So Who’s Crazy Now?

Jim Burroway

May 14th, 2012

Last week, I posted video of a woman from Lincoln, Nebraska, who testified before the city council against a proposed anti-discrimination ordinance. It had all of the hallmarks of a an anti-gay extremist’s diatribe, but little did I know (and I probably should have caught it), the poor woman was actually schizophrenic.

But as many of you pointed out in the comments section, it’s sometimes hard to tell who’s crazy and who isn’t when it comes to anti-gay rhetoric. Exhibit A is Paul Cameron of the Family Research Institute, who we haven’t heard from in a while. He is a discredited “researcher” who has been cited by a large number of other anti-gay activists and writers, despite having been denounced by the American Psychological Association in 1983, by the Nebraska Psychological Association in 1984, the American Sociological Association in 1985 and 1986, and, more recently, the Eastern Psychological Association in 2007. Oh, and he believes that the Nazis did a swell job in “dealing with” homosexuals during World War II.

Last week, Cameron appeared on VCY America (Voice of Christian Youth). You tell me: is he any saner than the lady from Lincoln?

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Well, the timing is I think miserable for his re-election. I would have expected him, as you did, to wait until he was the new president and say, “Guess what? I’ve changed my mind,” or, “I’ve evolved.” But homosexuality is the one sin, or the one habit, that is 24/7. It is homosexuality all the time. And actually, while I’m not sure about the claims by the various people who have reported that Obama has at least participated at times with them in homosexual acts, this certainly lends some credence.

…Mark my words clearly: the long term goal of the homosexual movement is to get every little boy to grab his ankles and every little girl to give it a try. They will not rest until every one of our children at least gets to try, has the opportunity and maybe is forced to at least once experience homosexual acts. There is no retreating from that, they made it very clear earlier on — now they don’t take about it — but that’s what they want, they will not be happy until they get it, marriage is just a step along the way.

According to Right Wing Watch:

Cameron later said he “partially agreed” with a caller who said, “they gave blacks equal rights and that was a bad path and now look where we are, if I don’t feel like I want to hire a black man for my business I’m in all sorts of trouble and now it’s going to be some homo who is gonna have to get a job because I can’t do nothing about it.” Cameron claimed the push for LGBT equality “brings into question the civil rights mentality” because it created “special rights on the basis of certain characteristics,” calling gays and lesbians “mentally deranged” and transgender people “people that are really strange.”

Right Wing Watch has more here, including Cameron’s repeating his demand that gays be rounded up an imprisoned.



May 14th, 2012 | LINK

If they want to round us up and imprison us I say they should suffer the same fate. For what they put forth is hate speech and should be illegal. :)

May 14th, 2012 | LINK

Any way we can get him to say this on real TV? Please?

May 15th, 2012 | LINK

Elsewhere, I suggested that a Turing Test of the woman in the video and any of the religious homophobes would reach the following conclusions:
1. Turing Test could not tell the difference between the two individuals.
2. It would determine that both were not human.

Alan Turing’s 100th birthday next month. “What if” is a hopeless exercise but a life expectancy of 80 would have had him contributing to computer science from the 1950s into the 1990s.

David L Rattigan
May 15th, 2012 | LINK

I think there were a few clues the woman was mentally ill. Some of the statements weren’t merely prejudiced, but outright incoherent, especially the one about naked bodies in a bathtub.

Bizarre that this lady is being allowed to go out and do these things, since someone, whether her family or her state, is supposed to be looking out for her. But apparently she’s built up quite a career as a local activist doing exactly this kind of protesting.

Old Skooler
May 15th, 2012 | LINK

In fairness, it’s all to easy to find who the mentally unstable people are from the left also. If you want to demonize one group make sure you have the courage to point out the same in your own group. Otherwise, you look just as dumb as those you’re trying to mock. If you’re the kind of person that pretends the left doesn’t do such things or supports unfair actions taken by people on the left towards those on the right then you have no place in the discussion. Everyone has the right the the same free speech you enjoy. To pretend that those with a different opinion do not deserve such freedom means you’re the first person that should shut up as you cannot be trusted to be a stable and thinking human being.

Jim Burroway
May 15th, 2012 | LINK

Everyone has the right the the same free speech you enjoy. To pretend that those with a different opinion do not deserve such freedom means you’re the first person that should shut up as you cannot be trusted to be a stable and thinking human being/

Old Skooler, You are making a lazy and false accusation. I challenge you to find just one instance anywhere, where I think anyone does not deserve freedom of speech.

Just one.

May 15th, 2012 | LINK

Why do anti-gay campaigners have such a problem with understanding that freedom of speech does not entail freedom to have their speech go unchallenged?

Is it the same phenomenon that makes them struggle to tell the difference between not being allowed to discriminate against others and being discriminated against themselves?

Or are these both mere aspects of the larger problem they have – and which is so fantastically illustrated by Cameron – with struggling to tell the difference between BS and reality?

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