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How many times are they going to do this?

Rob Tisinai

June 11th, 2012

Two days after leaving the AIDS/LifeCycle bubble of love, I force myself to click on NOM’s blog page, and you know what I find?

Same sh*t, different day.

NOM (and the rest of the anti-gay world) is crowing about a study on the awfulness of gay parenting. You can read more about that here and here and here. Let me focus on one distinct and familiar flaw: The study compares the children of married biological parents with those from broken homes — and the study’s “lesbian mothers” that our opponents are vilifying generally weren’t married to each other; nor were the gay fathers. No, they were often in opposite-sex relationships that broke down.

Our opponents’ reporting hasn’t focused on that. But I can easily imagine how how an unstable, dishonest mom/dad relationship would (a) be harmful to the kids, and (b) have nothing to do with same-sex parenting!

Now, you can combat this sort of thing with careful analysis. But the error is so common, so recurring, that I’ve put together a cartoon I now can just whip out when the need arises. Who knows, maybe this is the best way to make such an obvious and elementary point:

Feel free to post it where needed.

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Jim Burroway
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

Excellent!

Steve
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

Here is more about how biased and HIGHLY political Regnerus is:
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/1-nom-founder-and-mormon-church-behind-first-applause-of-new-anti-gay-parenting-study/politics/2012/06/10/41097

Kathryn Howie
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

great cartoon – excellent – copied for use

mike/
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

it is also insulting to single parents who have to raise kids alone; he takes care to not deal with that nor the possibility that a child may be having issues of abandonment, etc.

the thing is, these people write these ‘studies’ for people who they believe are not intelligent and use fear to tap into their reactions.

when those of us who have a background in research and point out inconsistencies they can then run & hide.

David C.
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

When science is merely tchotchke science instead of plain junk science.

StraightGrandmother
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

ROB it is sad that you can find this cartoon so easily on your computer. But I gotta say it is one awesome cartoon. I saved it.

StraightGrandmother
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

Rob, Hope you don’t mind but I am going to send excellent cartoon out this out to a lot of people i know.

Palmer
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

SMG,

Rob drew this cartoon.

Smith
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

NOMBlog is not a news service and I don’t expect them to be honest or accurate. However, when ABC News or a blog on the NY Times website makes the same errors in covering this study, there needs to be a response.

I see that our crack media organization, GLAAD, is nowhere to be found. They should be getting in front of this story, insisting that editors not permit it to be spun as a study on “gay parenting” or as a comparison between similarly situated gay and straight families. Maybe GLAAD will get around to doing something by the time it is too late to matter.

Steve
June 11th, 2012 | LINK

And the “study” is already being used by the so-called American College of Pediatricians in an amicus brief supporting DOMA:

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/qh/amicus-briefs-in-support-of-blag-in-golinski-case/#idc-container

A.M.
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Are there similar studies on race of parents and outcome of child? I honestly don’t know.

But if there are though, would anyone try and use them to justify discriminatory laws for the public “good”? I just don’t think that would go over very well to say the least.

If there aren’t studies like that though, then we should not stand for it either.

Timothy Kincaid
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Ah yes. Another reminder of why we love Rob.

Jim brilliantly analyzes the study and lays out its flaws in layman terms. And Rob puts that analysis in one cartoon graphic. I’m surrounded by genius.

Ed Costello
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

These groups will continue to do what they do best and that is to demonize anyone who is different. They will do this even if they have to make up a “scientific study” to agree with their views. As a free and open society they have a right to do this, however, most people will recognize it for what it is – pure propaganda designed to dehuminize LGBT individuals. We must fight this and bring the truth out to all – because “the truth will set you free!”

StraightGrandmother
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Rob, I used Google to search for every single news story on this research and I posted a response to every one. this is what I posted.
“Dr. Regenerus’s Respondents were raised in a MIXED ORIENTATION MARRIAGE (MOM), or a MIXED ORIENTATION SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. A MOM is where one spouse is gay and one spouse is straight. That is who responded to this survey people who had parents in a MOM. Regnerus confirms that he found only a few Respondents who were raised in a straight up lesbian or straight up gay home. Here is part of his e-mail to me which he asked me to post.

[snip]”By the way, one of the key methodological criticisms circulating is that–basically–in a population-based sample, I haven’t really evaluated how the adult children of stably-intact coupled self-identified lesbians have fared. Right? Right. And I’m telling you that it cannot be feasibly accomplished. It is a methodological (practical) impossibility at present, for reasons I describe: they really didn’t exist in numbers that could be amply obtained *randomly*. It may well be a flaw–limitation, I think–but it is unavoidable. We maxxed Knowledge Networks’ ability, and no firm is positioned to do better. It would have cost untold millions of dollars, and still may not generate the number of cases needed for statistical analyses.[end snip] You can read the full e-mail exchange here-
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/11/45557

We know that only 1/3 of Mixed Orientation Marriages attempt to stay together after disclosure and of that 1/3, only half manage to stay together for 3 years or more (and it goes really down hill after 7 years).

FWIW I agree with Dr. Regnerus Mixed Orientation Marriages (or Mixed Orientation Sexual Relationships) that produce children are VERY BAD for the children. And that is what his study proves. It does not attempt and does NOT assess the outcomes of children raised by 2 loving moms or 2 loving dads. It.Does.Not.”

This pic by Rob Tsinai describes this research perfectly. I know he will let you re-post it.
http://wakingupnow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/quit-damning5.png

SharonB
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Is it possible this “study” has more relevance for ex-gay relationships than actual committed gay relationships?

Reed
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Great graphic image. And, given the recent “NOM two nooses” incident, I can’t help but wonder how soon it will be stolen and altered by NOM allies.

StraightGrandmother
June 12th, 2012 | LINK

Hey Rob for the first time I got your pic to actually display in a comment.
Here- http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002800255#post1

I am on Google News and I am just keep refreshing for every single article that comes up with this research in it and I either post a comment or directly contact the author. I am determined that this will get nipped in the bud right away, before it goes out without and rebuttal. Thank GOD Jim worked his butt off on Saturday and posted this on Sunday. I got in touch with Regernus before the story was widely disseminated. If Jim wouldn’t have done that when he did Regernus no doubt today wouldn’t talk to me as he is swamped with requests for interviews. Thank God Jim got this out there right away which gave me that little space to communicate with Regernus before he was swamped.

Now that the story is out we have the TRUTH to immediately put out there.

Anyway I always include a link to your pic in every comment because I think that one pic says more than I can say in 1,000 words.

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