Anti-Gay Contradictions: Who Are the Extremists Here, Anyway?

Rob Tisinai

August 31st, 2012

Our anti-gay opponents scatter arguments like lawn seed, tossing them out by the handful and seeing which take root, with little concern for what’s actually true. That’s why the movement is such an intellectual tangle. This is part of a series pointing out the contradictions you trip over when you step back and pay attention to their whole big field of weeds.

Contradiction 5: Gays are radical extremists who don’t support radical extremism.

The National Organization for against something-something Marriage is funny in a buffoonish, Keystone Kops kind of way. They like to call us radicals and extremists, but then they trip themselves up by proving the opposite. Here’s their president, Brian Brown:

Maybe [the failure of gay Republicans at the convention] has something to do with another truth the media doesn’t report: even gay people don’t think gay marriage is their most urgent problem.

That’s right: a new Harris interactive poll touted by GOProud shows just 6 percent of gay voters named same-sex marriage as their top issue!

I’m not surprised. Personally, this radical extremist places a higher priority on, for example, not going to war with Iran. Or making sure children don’t starve. I simply think we work for those goals while still seeking justice and legal equality for everyone.

No, the radical extremists aren’t on our side so much. It’s the NOM royalty like Maggie Gallagher and Kirk Cameron and Frank Turek who think homosexuality and same-sex marriage are a threat to western civilization.

So let’s sum up NOM’s world view:

  • Marriage equality advocates are extreme fanatics who recognize that there are more important things in the world than same-sex marriage.
  • And marriage equality opponents are civil, rational folk who think giving marriage to a tiny subset of law-abiding adults will destroy civilization.

Poor Brian Brown. He’s got so many talking points to keep track of he can’t even tell when they contradict each other. But that’s okay. We’ll keep watch for him.

Jarred

August 31st, 2012

I’d add the following to your list things that need to take a higher priority: affordable health care, protecting children and teens from bullying, and ensuring that people can’t be thrown out of their homes or fired from their jobs for discriminatory reasons. And yes, we can work on all of those things and marriage equality. Because we can work on more than one thing at a time.

Hyhybt

August 31st, 2012

Maybe they just really badly misread Matthew 13?

Mark F.

August 31st, 2012

Yes, there are more important things to me than marriage equality as well. So much so that I’m absolutely refusing to vote for Obama.

rusty

August 31st, 2012

A great review

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnewzar.com%2Fobamas-stirring-new-gay-rights-ad%2F&h=tAQEo9nX8&s=1

Jim Hlavac

August 31st, 2012

The anti-gay tangled web of (half)thoughts is rather complex — mostly because they are fighting a “homosexuality” that they’ve imagined, with the fear that of the potential for all heteros to change to “homosexual” — but they can’t fight gay folks, because we’re just too boring and normal.

But web-tangle wise, their take on why people are gay is a doozy: in the womb we acquire an undefined, but unnatural predisposition, and a biological, but not natural, prenatal inexplicable hormone bath, that may or may not be caused by some unknown, unexplored, and unnatural genetic basis, which requires too a post natal set of conditions: we have an environment that’s never explained, as well as an overbearing, too close, but too distant or absent father, and/or an overbearing, or cloying, or too far, absent or uncaring mother, and the birth order may or may not have some effect, and as soon as the gay adult down the block molests us, and recruits us, we shall choose to be gay, for what the Archbishop of the Armed forces says is “largely unexplained reasons.”

With that sort of clarity, webs don’t even exist to be tangled.

Richard Rush

August 31st, 2012

Yes, there are more important things to me than marriage equality as well. So much so that I’m absolutely voting for Obama.

Gene in L.A.

August 31st, 2012

It doesn’t matter whom you refuse to vote for; what matters is whom you do vote for.

Reed Boyer

September 1st, 2012

Ah, Rob Tisinai, you may not write as often as others, but when you DO . . . it’s prime stuff. Thoroughly enjoyed.

Neil

September 2nd, 2012

I have a sense the way NOM would eat their cake and have it too on the conflicting arguments stated above is to say that ordinary gays don’t care about same-sex marriage but that the issue is led by radical extremists.

They would probably see it as: “Gays are not like us. They don’t form proper families. They’re not fit for marriage like the naturally ordered heterosexual. They don’t even care about it. Some radicals demand that everyone be that way (after the fashion of Haight-Ashbury free love acid head/social anarchists). If they had their way the natural order would be destroyed and chaos would ensue.”

They see gays as a threat to the natural order and believe we mostly agree with them. They think, “heterosexuality, natch. Everybody knows that. Marriage=straight=natural order, Mom, Dad, kids and pets. Gays=disorder, debauched sex, sometimes with pets.

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