Beyond Barney Frank

Timothy Kincaid

September 6th, 2012

Last night, while Barney Frank was resting up in preparation for trashing Log Cabin Republicans before the DNC’s LGBT Caucus, the Los Angeles chapters of Log Cabin Republicans and Stonewall Democrats were co-hosting a fund raiser for Minnesotans United for All Families. And this, I think, illustrates a real difference between the old school power-broking party boss mentality and today’s pragmatic goal-focused community. And I, for one, am happy to be beyond Barney Frank.

xdevildawg4u@msn.com

September 6th, 2012

I strongly disagree with what Rep. Frank said last night. I hope we can move away from this ugly style of politics on BOTH sides but I can’t think of ANYONE that I would rather have had on our side over the last couple of decades than Barney Frank. Agree or disagree with his style or his politics I think he deserves our respect.

AlexND

September 6th, 2012

xdevildog: ‘Ugly style’?!?! He’s consistently divisive just because the other side says something he doesn’t like. That’s something that needs to be removed from BOTH sides of the isle.

tim

September 6th, 2012

Barney Frank has become more and more irrelevant every year. This just puts a nail in his coffin.

xdevildawg4u@msn.com

September 6th, 2012

AlexND, that’s exactly what I said!

Read my comment again.

Steve

September 6th, 2012

Raising money for LGBT families while simultaneously supporting and apologizing for a candidate that wants to use the Constitution to legally dismantle those families. That’s a bit counter productive wouldn’t you day? The LCR is goal oriented. Their goal is to oust the most pro-LGBT administration this country has ever seen and replace it one that wants to pander to the religious right while setting LGBT Americans back two generations. The LCR deserves to be trashed. Barney was right to do it.

Gene in L.A.

September 7th, 2012

Mr. Kincaid, Maybe you’d feel different about him if you had lived in this country before Barney Frank came out and began openly fighting to win our rights, and knew what opposition he was up against, and is still up against. I consider the LCR as a political group to be traitorous to our struggle for equality, because they put that struggle second in importance to the economy. Any gay person in the last 50 years who hasn’t realized that for us there simply is no more important issue than gaining our right to equality as who we are simply hasn’t been awake. They don’t speak for me and I will never sublimate my activism to their concern for their precious portfolios.

Jackie

September 7th, 2012

Really? Move beyond Barney Frank? How amazingly arrogant. He was out there fighting for us before most any of us had the nerve and the ability to be out. We’re not moving beyond him, we’re standing on his shoulders.
And, the Republican Party just voted on a platform that specifically rejects us and our families. How is supporting that party and that platform anything but being an Uncle Tom? There is working from within to make change and ten there is kissing the ass of the people who hate you. Give me Barney Frank any day.

Robert

September 7th, 2012

Timothy is beyond anything with a liberal bent. This is not suprise.

Hue-Man

September 7th, 2012

How delicious – trashing Frank for trashing LCR which routinely trashes every sane gay or lesbian! LCR and their only slightly dumber brother GOProud mis-state Groucho Marx’s famous quip: “I want to join any club that would refuse to have me as a member.”

And what TeaParty/GOP policy would you embrace? The choices are varied: VoucherCare, Throw Granny out of her Medicaid financed nursing home, massive tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, more war department spending, endless and growing deficits. And from a dull duo who have never started a real nuts-and-bolts business or created a job – other than stable-hands for dressage horses and car-elevator operators.

Steve

September 7th, 2012

Timothy would fit perfectly in the GOProud crowd

Reed B

September 7th, 2012

“Today’s pragmatic goal-focused community” – how fabulous these folk must be in that wonderful land beyond Barney, where Democrats and Republicans can get together and throw a party for the Minnesotans. Certainly, if I’d known, I’d have tossed some money their way.

Unfortunately, Googling “stonewall democrats and log cabin republicans joint fund raiser minnesota families” yields only THIS article. So, “beyond Barney” was anyone COVERING that magnificent event sufficiently to give advance notice? Pragmatically, it’s nice to let people know about these things. This excellent and worthy effort (the coming-together of the two disparate groups) was doubly newsworthy; and here we are finding out about it after the fact.

Timothy Kincaid

September 7th, 2012

Reed,

It’s not too late. Just send a contribution to either of the organizations and I promise that they will make sure it gets to Minnesotans United. Or you can just send it directly to the organization.

And, no there was no MSM news coverage. No one COVERED the event, other than me. But yes, it was pretty fabulous.

Robert

September 7th, 2012

“Barney Frank is a distinguished and honorable public servant. He has faced nearly 40 years of unspeakable hatred and persecution for being the most prominent and outspoken openly gay elected official in the country. Regardless of what he has to say about Log Cabin Republicans, the notion that they would suggest a man as brave and upstanding as Congressman Frank is either cowardly or a bully is both deluded and absurd.

“The true bullies are the hate-mongers in the GOP who want to strip us of our rights and shove us back into the closet. And ‘cowardly’? Cowardly is making pathetic excuses for the backward and misguided anti-LGBT policies of your Party. The Log Cabin Republicans are the most weak-kneed, sycophantic apologists I’ve ever encountered. After their dismal performance at the RNC convention driving the GOP platform even farther to the right, they should give back all the money they’ve fleeced from their donors and close the doors.” – Jerame Davis, National Stonewall Democrats executive director, via press release.

Robert

September 7th, 2012

I find it odd that such an event as described by Tim is not mentioned on ANY of the participating Organizations websites? Odd.

Timothy Kincaid

September 7th, 2012

I’ll make you a deal. For those who don’t believe the event occurred, I’ll provide a link to it’s Facebook page.

However, your side of the deal is that if you do go check to see if I’m lying to you, then you have to make a contribution. Not a huge one (this was a very affordable fund raiser), but you have to give something.

Fair enough?

https://www.facebook.com/events/369494653122966/

Robert

September 7th, 2012

Why is it that when I post the statement by Jerame Davis, the National Stonewall Democrat’s executive Director, you won’t post the comment?

Is it because he refutes the view of the author on Barney Frank, and offers a full throated statement of support of him? Just curious.

Timothy Kincaid

September 7th, 2012

I have no idea why it went to spam, Robert. It was there along with your second posting and an identical posting by another name (I only cleared one copy).

(ps. have you contributed yet?)

Jaime

September 7th, 2012

Robert, thank you for pointing this out.

Jaime

September 7th, 2012

http://lgbtde.ms/NP6WNQ

The press release

Robert

September 7th, 2012

Please, Tim, I contributed BEFORE your article, but not through the Uncle Toms…

Robert

September 7th, 2012

Jaime, you are welcome. I had even looked to the Comments Policy and thought maybe it was because I copied and pasted it in. Thanks for putting up the lnk.

And thanks, Tim, for clearing the post.

Timothy Kincaid

September 7th, 2012

nope… sorry. the terms of the deal are that if you check up on my honesty, then you have to contribute. again.

but it’s okay… just tell yourself it’s a stonewall democrats event in conjunction with ‘rustic natural-housing-materials aficionados’ if you must.

Jay

September 8th, 2012

The fact that your attack on a distinguished openly gay Congressman is not a surprise does not make it any less disgraceful.

Robert

September 8th, 2012

Tim, maybe you should have posted your prof of the event prior to the questions about it. Generally that’s what a reporter does. They provide back up for their claims, especially one in which they were the “ONLY ONE” covering it. But then again, that;s what a good reporter does. I don’t agree that we had a “deal”. You were simply asked for proof of your statement. If any other writer on this site had made specious statements, I would have asked for proof of it as well. It’s not my fault you got lazy with this post.

Donny D.

September 8th, 2012

Steve wrote,

Timothy would fit perfectly in the GOProud crowd

Gee, that’s funny, because I remember Timothy badly beating up GOProud in a post a number of months ago. I think he concluded that he didn’t consider GOProud to be a gay organization.

Blake

September 17th, 2012

It’s late & short but hear! Hear!

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