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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyNovember 28th, 2012
Rick Warren is at it again. The megachurch pastor is explaining why homosexuals don’t have to act all homosexual, and he does it with some cute little equivalencies:
Here’s what we know about life. I have all kinds of natural feelings in my life and it doesn’t necessarily mean that I should act on every feeling. Sometimes I get angry and I feel like punching a guy in the nose. It doesn’t mean I act on it. Sometimes I feel attracted to women who are not my wife. I don’t act on it. Just because I have a feeling doesn’t make it right. Not everything natural is good for me. Arsenic is natural.
Don’t be surprised if he ducks any criticism with a hurt, victimized video message. He did it four years ago, which inspired my very first political youtube:
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PLAINTOM
November 28th, 2012
Just because you can speak doesn’t mean you should speak.
Eric in Oakland
November 28th, 2012
Just because it is possible to repress a natural desire does not mean it is healthy to do so, or proper to legislate.
leonardo Ricardo
November 28th, 2012
I saw this too. I think you’ve struck the right note…the man is a silly, spoiled and make-up-anything-he-thinks-will-sound-charitable kind of an ass…dangerous behind the shallowness, of course, doesn’t take personal responsibility for the gay-bashing blood on his hands. Twurp.
Jaime
November 28th, 2012
Rob,
I missed it the first time around but glad I caught the second – awesome, awesome, video. Thank you.
Neil
November 28th, 2012
“Sometimes I get angry and I feel like punching a guy in the nose. It doesn’t mean I act on it.”
…by punching the guy in the nose. No, he acts on it by telling the guy to remain celibate for the term of his natural life (unless he enters into a sham marriage and manages to go through the motions his poor wife of convenience).
Soren456
November 28th, 2012
A good video. And a completely fair statement about Warren, who brought it upon himself and deserved it.
As for his untroubled insistence that I ought to ignore my basic nature essentially because it irritates him, I can’t even begin to speak.
Richard Rush
November 28th, 2012
Some of Warren’s words must have been omitted in the quote. I believe he meant to add, “I don’t punch guys in the nose or commit adultery, because those acts would be wrong, and besides, I would lose my ministry and substantial income. But sometimes I feel overwhelmed with my anti-gay bigotry, and I always DO act on that by spewing hateful lies about gays to degrade their lives as much as possible.” While nose-punching and adultery are typically frowned upon, lots of people applaud and cheer when I go after the homos.
Tor
November 28th, 2012
Piss off, god.
neelium
November 28th, 2012
I think Eric got it right. Warren’s points are true, in a vacuum, but irrelevant to the discussion because they simply aren’t on the same level as sexuality.
Also, I still fail to see the victim in homosexuality, whereas in Warren’s cases the presence of a victim makes it clear why these impulses ought not to be acted upon.
MLouise
November 29th, 2012
Apparently he has already backed off and “apologized,” but it is clear that what he is sorry about is that his remarks went public. After all, he only meant to offer instruction to his little flock of 20,000, poor dear.
Hunter
November 29th, 2012
I’m really amazed at the number of small, mean, nasty people, completely bereft of any moral sense whatsoever — not to mention any real humanity — who claim to be followers of Jesus.
customartist
November 29th, 2012
Rick Warren was on CBS Yesterday and on CNN today selling his book.
No mention of his involvement in Uganda.
CBS: 212-975-3247
(betw. 10:00-11:30 a.m. specifically)
CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=generalcomments&hdln=4
Paul Mc
November 29th, 2012
“Sometimes I feel attracted to women who are not my wife. I don’t act on it. ”
He forgot to add: “because I can go to my natural wife who naturally married and have natural sex as many times as we naturally would like”
Why do these people get air time? Instead of picking the thing MOST like gay relationships, MOST alike in their involvment of just 2 consenting unrelated adults, MOST alike in the qualities of the best (and sometimes the worst) of human nature can be explored, the thing which MOST closely resembles the form of human nature modelled in marriage i.e. oppsite sex relationships, they pick arsenic. WTF!!
Arsenic? In what way is arsenic relevant?
Same with incest and punching and marrying a table.
IRRELEVANT
It’s a form of moral relativism. The thing is only moral if ‘I’ say it is moral. That particular thing is immoral even though it is the equivalent with that other thing.
Priya Lynn
November 29th, 2012
Hunter said “I’m really amazed at the number of small, mean, nasty people, completely bereft of any moral sense whatsoever — not to mention any real humanity — who claim to be followers of Jesus.”.
I’m not. Jesus is the character who says “I love you and if you don’t love me back I’ll torture you eternally” – Its not surprising that many of Jesus’s followers are immoral.
Lord_Byron
November 29th, 2012
Priya Lynn- I am not surprised that many of his followers are immoral because to many of them all they have to do is ask for forgiveness and that is perfectly fine. Remember that we should have forgiven gingrich because he had asked god for forgiveness.
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