6 responses

  1. Charles
    December 21, 2012

    There needs to be an enlightenment within the Catholic Church.

  2. Bose in St. Peter MN
    December 21, 2012

    Yup, this “logic” doesn’t support SOCE (sexual orientation change effort) therapies and ideally rules out cosmetic procedures on babies with ambiguous genitalia.

    This is bizarre to me: “When freedom to be creative becomes the freedom to create oneself, then necessarily the Maker himself is denied…” So, for the Pope, non-straight orientation is something we create, and by acknowledging it, we have created a new person, discarding the old one.

    In fundamental ways, though, each of us is perpetually creating the person that we are, guided by our aptitudes, talents, opportunities and other factors beyond our control. We are made up of our chosen values and attitudes, we are self-directed into being social and/or solitary, we invest ourselves in arts, or technology, service, commerce, or health care. We create relationships that matter, sustain them, change them, and sometimes end them. At surface level, we even create much of our appearance — we shape, shade or shave the hair we’ve been given, tone up, trim down, dress, accessorize, whatever.

    In the midst of all choices we make to create a meaningful life and be our best selves, the simplest choice — to embrace our capacity to love another person — is written off as counterfeit. Or, maybe the Pope is vying for veto power over people’s free will generally… it’s just too “creative.”

  3. Hunter
    December 22, 2012

    The pope is not enthusiastic about people creating themselves — that’s too close to being independent, and the Church, in spite of sops to “freedom of conscience,” does not like independence.

  4. joel
    December 23, 2012

    What are creatures that are not dignified to be called people? … Thank you p

  5. Jim Hlavac
    December 26, 2012

    I could care less what the pope believes, nor what he preaches to his flock, it’s when he tries to get the governments of the world and my own family, friends and society, to act on his tortured logic, that bugs me. Logic which boils down to the USA’s Archbishop of the Armed Forces rather succinct comment about “homosexuality” [lord, I loathe the word, gay is far better,]– he said: “It’s largely unexplained.”

    Yes, that sums up the entirety of hetero thinking. They are clueless, and deny all rational evidence in front of them that we just are natural as could be, and don’t “create” or “change” or “forsake” or do any such thing but live; they are equally unappreciative of the astounding forbearance and Christian decency we maintain towards mush heads like the pope who abandon their own teaching when it comes to gay folks and call for hate, and not love.

    And still, yet, the vast majority of heteros, even our friends, are still clueless as to why God might have put us, the, um, “platypuses” of the human race, around for the enjoyment of one and all. They say, “it’s largely unexplained.” Clarity; I love it. Ahem.

    Jesus, since it’s His birthday, I’m told, would have said: “It’s to test everyone on that ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ bit… you’ve all failed.”

    Meanwhile, sorry Mr. Pope, I’m not Catholic, so I won’t listen or follow.

  6. Anthemius
    December 31, 2012

    Well, the catholic organization “Courage” doesn’t make claims of being able to turn people straight, instead insisting that chastity is the only moral way for gays.

    By his rhetoric, it sounds like the Pope is preaching against transgender people.

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