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Rob Tisinai

April 3rd, 2013

We’re having trouble keeping to the schedule and had to rush this one through production (who’d have thought creating sound arguments against gay marriage would be so hard?). Hopefully the editors got everything right.

And when you’re finished, please, come and visit my organization’s new web site. Seriously.



Ben in Oakland
April 3rd, 2013 | LINK

Another winner.

Every tie I ask someone about that, it’s either mostly a hem-and-haw, or a full fledged endorsement.

April 4th, 2013 | LINK

You know what’s even more fun? Ask a Leviticus quoter if there are any other abominations in the Bible. They usually don’t know. There are about 60 other abominations in the Bible. But the others aren’t about sex.

Proverbs 6: 16 – 19 has seven abominations to the Lord. Or how about Proverbs 11:1 which says using false weights and measures — a primary business practice of the day — is an abomination.

So, if cheating people through fraudulent business practices is an abomination, how can we still allow mortgage bankers who fraudulently approved mortgages over the last several years to get married?

Regan DuCasse
April 4th, 2013 | LINK

Indeed, usury is a BIG sin. One of the worst. Yet, and although it’s affected the entire country and the stability of our nation’s economy, the Bible beaters take time out of their busy day to assure everyone that it’s gay couples getting married that’s going to take the country down in flames!

Sir Andrew
April 4th, 2013 | LINK

I personally agree with the Leviticus quote. Let’s face it: If you’re laying with a man in the same way you lay with a woman– dude, you’re doing it really wrong. And that IS an abomination.

April 4th, 2013 | LINK

@Sir Andrew. I have thought that myself . . .

April 4th, 2013 | LINK

BWAH-hahahah! (my highest version of ‘LOL’)

April 4th, 2013 | LINK

To be fair to the leviticus quoter, that verse about guys having abominable sex with each other is usually stated to convey a flavour of Biblical condemnation. When the problem of advocating a capital penalty is raised, it’s ameliorated with the business about how the advent of Jesus fulfils the law.

So, it’s not about the letter of the law. It’s about the vibe. When children laugh at bald guys, upholders of Biblical Truths don’t advocate releasing wild bears at them, but they will say “grrr” a lot and gesture with their hands to suggest claws.

April 4th, 2013 | LINK

Neil, sounds like a very sophisticated way of picking and choosing from the Bible.

April 5th, 2013 | LINK

The word “abomination” is a mistranslation. In Hebrew it’s more something along the lines of “taboo”. Something that is common among non-believers, but forbidden for the Chosen People. Many of those stupid OT rules are simply about setting the tribe apart from the other tribes next door.

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