10 responses

  1. Priya Lynn
    May 23, 2013

    I’m surprised there was such a big margin in favour. I don’t think it’ll be very long and they’ll realize they now look absurd banning adult gays and change that as well.

  2. Sandhorse
    May 23, 2013

    As much as I dislike the details of this decision, I can’t help but think this will usher in the next step of accepting gay leadership as well. Once fellow scouts begin to see their fellow Eagle Scouts being cast out, the injustice of it will be undeniable.

  3. Timothy Kincaid
    May 23, 2013

    I hope you are right, Priya Lynn. I think it’s eventual, but I hope it’s sooner rather than later.

  4. Richard Rush
    May 23, 2013

    “The Boy Scout’s new policy goes into effect January 1, 2014.”

    I assume that until 12/31/2013 Scouts discovered to be gay will be thrown out, right? So, will they be allowed back in on 1/1/2014?

  5. Erp
    May 23, 2013

    People tend to overlook that from 2004 (it was a bit vague before then) until sometime in the last couple of years, lgbt youth were not banned though they could not hold youth leadership positions (e.g., patrol leader) which effectively banned boys from becoming Eagle scouts (they have to lead other scouts in doing their project).

    So the BSA has moved possibly an increment in the last few years, one step backwards in banning gay youth, one step forward in unbanning them and presumably dropping the ban on them holding youth leadership positions.

    This is probably too late for Ryan Andresen since he is over 18 though it would be nice if they considered special circumstances and gave him the Eagle he earned. Anyway the BSA claimed he was an atheist (a charge he denies) and the ban on atheists has not changed.

  6. Marcus
    May 23, 2013

    Question to people who’ve been following this: What was the result expected to be? Is the margin larger or smaller than expected?

  7. Timothy Kincaid
    May 23, 2013

    Marcus, I wasn’t exactly sure what I thought would happen so the margin was a bit of a surprise. But it probably shouldn’t have been – it was the ‘compromise’ decided on beforehand.

  8. CPT_Doom
    May 24, 2013

    So, according to the BSA, I and everyone like me is still a bad role model for kids. Forget my Master’s degree, my membership in Phi Beta Kappa or my moral beliefs, because I have TEH GAY children should not be around me. How lovely. As far as I am concerned, the organization remains anti-American their policies and should be shunned by all right-thinking people.

  9. Richard Rush
    May 24, 2013

    This new split policy is simply incoherent, and I predict it won’t last very long. As time goes on and gay boys are thrown out on their 18th birthday, the magnitude of incoherence will become glaringly obvious and offensive to everyone except the intractable bigots.

    Imagine how an out gay scout (and the people who love him) will feel as he approaches his 18th birthday knowing that he will instantly become a toxic dangerous threat who must be removed from proximity to all his slightly younger scouting friends so he can’t harm them.

  10. jerry
    May 24, 2013

    I will cast my vote with Cpt_Doom. As long as gay adults and atheists are portrayed as inferior beings, the organization is not one I would support or want to be a member.

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