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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyAugust 27th, 2013
On the website of Senator William Sharer – New Mexico’s equality opponent in chief – the Farmington Republican shares his views on marriage and history.
Archeology shows the importance of the family unit working together as the first and most basic unit of human cooperation. There is overwhelming evidence that the unit of ‘mom, dad and children’ has been encouraged from the earliest pre-written record. The union between one man and one woman was the first and most lasting definition of marriage.
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Alexander the Great’s – View of MarriageAlexander the Great (356-323 BC) married a Bactrian woman – modern day Afghanistan. Alexander may have engaged in homosexual activity, but he married a woman.
He directed his officers to stop “whoring” around and find a local woman to marry.
WHY?
BECAUSE
“It is only through blood relations that hatred and war will end”. In other words, Alexander the Great thought that marriage was about creating and raising the next generation.
This is the reason for Marriage –
The creation and raising of children who have the best chance to grow to be peaceful, responsible citizens.
Well… not exactly. Actually Alexander didn’t “marry a woman”. He married three, Roxana (the Bactrian woman he references), Stateira (daughter of Darius III) and Parysatis (daughter of Artaxerxes III). And though he did father a child, it wasn’t born until after Alexander’s death.
Using Sharer’s example of Alexander, perhaps we can deduce that he really meant to say that “There is overwhelming evidence that the unit of ‘mom, dad, fetus, and dad’s two other wives’ has been encouraged from the earliest pre-written record.”
How do truly stupid people get elected?
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TomTallis
August 27th, 2013
Because truly stupid people vote for them…
Ben In Oakland
August 27th, 2013
““It is only through blood relations that hatred and war will endâ€.
I’m glad to hear that war ended right after Alexander got married.
As far as I know, the only thing Alexander actually accomplished was that all of the people who died in all of his wars actually stayed dead.
Lord_Byron
August 27th, 2013
You know you could take it to mean that he is ok with you cheating on your wife with another man.
Steve
August 27th, 2013
Because there A LOT of a stupid people in America.
Patrick C
August 27th, 2013
I wish Christians would just stop appealing to archaeology and anthropology. They are so incredibly selective in what they use.
Marcus
August 27th, 2013
At least he partly admitted that Alex was bi. I’m pleasantly surprised.
Leo88
August 27th, 2013
Because when conquering a people it’s always helpful to—ahem—”marry” the conquered women.
And once those blood lines are commingled peace reigns. Because history shows that kin never kill each other for political or material gain.
Tor
August 27th, 2013
‘mom, dad and children’
I would re-write that as ‘moms, dad and children.’ It’s in the Bible, people!!
Gene in L.A.
August 27th, 2013
I’d just like to learn what a “pre-written record” is.
Odie
August 28th, 2013
So bisexuality and infidelity are OK so long as you’re presumably male and of high enough rank in society and have married and produced heirs??
That sounds like what he’s saying.
Well…that IS the prevailing model for much of the history of the Western world…that don’t make it right though.
Besides, aren’t Republicans supposed to be religious and against all that type of stuff?? Or is he tacitly admitting that they are all a bunch of deceivers who are perfectly fine with how “The World” does business…and Jesus Christ be damned??
Seems like, you go far enough back and views on sex were completely different from ours, best to admit that right up front. Best not to use anything from the ancient world to justify stuff today.
homer
August 28th, 2013
I’m an archaeologist for 26 years. It is impossible to determine the composition of most households in fine enough detail to know whether a nuclear family was present.
Andrew
August 28th, 2013
I think that’s more like, “mom, dad, fetus, dad’s 2 other wives, and his various homosexual lovers”. Which is kind of the Andy Dick school of raising a family. Actually, it’s been fairly successful in his case. Mainly because Andy Dick pays attention to his family instead of trying to take over the world. You kind of need to pick what kind of parent you want to be.
Nathaniel
August 28th, 2013
I can’t get over the use of that quote, as if marriage itself were the peace-maker, avoiding the context of conquest – a context Sharer dumbfoundinly provides, yet still manages to ignore. Making babies with conquered women was a common tactic, as others have pointed out, and the only lesson to learn here is why this was done: maintaining control. Perhaps it is no mistake he used this analogy. He sees himself at war, and hopes to dominate the sinful LGBT people with forced opposite-sex marriage.
NancyP
August 28th, 2013
For ancient kings, marriage was about contracting alliances with the father of the bride, usually another king. In a patrilineal culture, it was necessary to have heirs, in order to try to avoid a war between more distant relatives. Polygamy was a great tool for rulers. The Prophet Muhammed had a large number of wives from an equally large number of tribes/clans. That was a quick way to unite typically warring clans under the central banner of Islam.
Also, the concept that ancient men had male lovers and female fertile wives? Old news. Old, old, old news. This is about as pertinent as saying that ancient men had female lovers and female fertile wives. Marriage was a business decision in ancient times.
Hunter
August 29th, 2013
“‘It is only through blood relations that hatred and war will end’. In other words, Alexander the Great thought that marriage was about creating and raising the next generation.”
No, Alexander knew damned well that it was through marriage that political alliances were forged.
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