9 responses

  1. Robguy
    August 25, 2007

    Not allowed to possess porn? Cruel and unusual! ;)

  2. Timothy Kincaid
    August 25, 2007

    One small caution: although the Colorado Secretary of State shows the charity as “volunarily dissolved”, that may not be exactly as it seems.

    I’m guessing here (but an educated guess) that failure to file can lead to “voluntary dissolution”, a technical glitch that can be fixed by filing delinquent reports. Of course, it may also indicate that they decided to pack it all up.

    In any case, I believe that a charity that is not actively recognized cannot offer tax deductible contribution status. I do hope that those who give to Ted Haggard in this way do not jeopardize their own standing with the IRS by deducting such contibutions on their Schedule A. I’m sure, good Christians that they are, they’d be horrified to discover they were complicit in tax fraud. And even more horrified at the penaties they could incur for doing so.

  3. Samantha Davis
    August 25, 2007

    Well, that would certainly explain a lot for why I wasn’t able to find their website when I googled them yesterday.

  4. AM
    August 25, 2007

    Bit confused here…(Glad I majored in something easy like Chemistry, not Accounting.)

    At any rate, is the issue the “mix” of contributions, i.e. — direct personal checks and non-profit disbursements?

    My thought is that a person sending a check to the Billy Graham Association, for example, would possibly be contributing to Mr. Graham’s salary — albeit non-profits *do* have salary caps? Of course, the majority of the money would assumedly go for literature, daily operating expenses, etc…

    My recollection of some ministries will say, “Do not put my name anywhere on the check”, so I am guessing that would invalidate the non-profit tax code status, the earmarking, so to speak?

    Admittedly, it sounds wonky, the idea of double dipping, but I just was curious about clarification — inquiring minds want to know.

  5. Timothy Kincaid
    August 27, 2007

    AM,

    It all goes to the purpose of the charity. A ministry such as the Billy Graham Evangelical Association can pay Dr. Graham a salary for the work he does towards the BGEA’s stated goals.

    And, indeed, there are charities that pay expenses for people in need (think hurricane victims).

    But paying the daily expenses of the Haggard family is not likely to be a charitable purpose approved by the IRS. And providing deductions for a purpose other than that which is approved is tax fraud.

  6. AM
    August 27, 2007

    Hey Timothy,

    I don’t know what constitutes daily expenses versus a capped salary on paper — but I think I understand where you are going with this.

    To be honest with you, what bothers me more is the over a half million dollar home that is sitting around that could be sold and used for living expenses.

    When this first came out, I thought snarkily, “Wow, to be able to sin and then have others support you financially for two years!”

    As a Christian, I do believe adultery (of any kind) is sin. I also see precedence — think David and Bathsheba — in which individuals don’t necessarily get off scot-free — even in the age of grace.

    So, selling a pricey home and living off of the proceeds — hmmm…seems reasonable and sensible not to mention thoughtful and right to me.

    But, hey, what do I know? ;-)

  7. Timothy Kincaid
    August 28, 2007

    To the best of my knowledge, there is not any property in the name of Ted Haggard or his wife. He may not actually own the house.

  8. Samantha Davis
    August 29, 2007

    Well, being a layperson my analysis might be a bit wrong but if charities are allowed to give to poor people in need and if Ted Haggard has kept all of his belongings in the possession of his organization might that make him a “poor person” and thus able to recieve charitable donations?

    Someone please clarify, I’m not an accountant or a tax lawyer.

  9. Timothy Kincaid
    August 31, 2007

    A clarification – Haggard does indeed own his house in Colorado. However, he may not have much equity in this house.

    Samantha,

    If you are hungry a charity can feed you. If you need clothing it can cloth you. What it cannot do is simply provide unlimited funds solicited to the public and channelled to you through a charity.

    If you want more information or seek a deeper understanding, the tax code is available online.

    http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/index.html

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