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LaBarbera Blames Gays for Heterosexual Beastiality Porn

Timothy Kincaid

May 31st, 2008

While Peter LaBarbera will grudgingly admit that some of the participants at the International Mr. Leather event held every Memorial Day Weekend in Chicago are heterosexual, he insists that this is mostly a gay male event. And that is probably correct.

And LaBarbera places the blame for the most extreme elements, those which he declares are most objectionable, squarely on gay persons or, in an exercise of extrapolation, on the gay community as a whole. He trots out his pictures and his descriptions as an evidence that gay people – and not just some small subset – are depraved, perverted, and satanic.

This year Pete’s leading off his porno pic collection with a snapshot of a DVD display.

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Note that we’ve covered up the pornographic images. The bestiality titles (e.g., “Goat Fever,” “Amateur Animal 1,” speak for themselves. “Scat,” according to one online (and sexually explicit) “Robert Scott’s Gay Slang Dictionary,” refers to [*] “A gay male who gets sexual gratification from acts involving faeces.” That is, excrement, which to us at Americans For Truth is proof that Satan is alive and well in this world.

I’m not sure that Satan was all that obsessed with poop; I couldn’t find any references in Scripture that tied the two together. But I’m willing to concede that Pete may be on better terms with Satan than I am.

I was, however, able to find out some interesting information about the videos that Pete highlighted to titilate and horrify his readers. They are heterosexual.

Goat Fever involves a man, two women, and a (presumably female) goat. Amateur Animal 1 features “A couple with a blonde and german shepherd”. (I’m not providing links but descriptions of these videos are available by Googling their titles).

Neither of these videos involve male-male contact. But you wouldn’t know that from Pete’s posting.

I did not do an exhaustive search of every DVD shown in his promo picture; my interest level in such matters is much lower than Pete’s. But while it does appear that some of the scat DVDs are same-sex, the bestiality vids all seem to be evidence that if Satan is alive and well in this world, then he’s decidedly pushing a heterosexual agenda.

UPDATE:

* As reader PiaSharn correctly noted, this is not the definition of “Scat”. This is, rather, the definition of “Scat Queen”. Although LaBarbera prefers a definition that starts with “a gay male”, scat is actually a fetish that is practiced among heterosexuals as well and does not appear to be more common among homosexual fetishists than heterosexual fetishists.

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revtj
May 31st, 2008 | LINK

IML some years back when I was in Chicago (96-99) was held on the same weekend Promise Keepers (a quasi-fundamentalist christian men’s network) was meeting in Soldier Field. Imagine the hilarious street encounters that produced! I remember it seemed nearly everybody in Halstead had a story of gawking christians, some ‘sharing their faith’ and other things. The Tribune wrote a story on the 2 forms of hyper-masculinity: religion and leather. What’s exciting is we can have both, they can’t!

PiaSharn
May 31st, 2008 | LINK

Unsurprisingly, his definition of “scat” is not completely accurate. Yes, “scat” is a slang term for coprophilia, and it does refer to a sexual fetish that involves feces. However, it’s not a phenomenon that is limited to gay men.

Out of curiosity, I googled “Robert Scott’s Gay Slang Dictionary” (RSGSD) so that I could check the entry for myself. The page no longer exists, and, from what I can tell, it hasn’t been around since 2003.

(I’m trying to pull up an archived version of the site using the Wayback Machine right now, but I’m having problems with the server.)

I did find Aaron’s Dictionary of Gay Terms (WARNING: site contains images that are not work safe!) which has gotten some of its info from the now-defunct RSGSD website.

Now then, there is an entry on Aaron’s site that has, word for word, the definition supplied by Porno Pete. It’s also one of the entries that was aquired from RSGSD.

However, the entry isn’t for the word “scat”. It’s actually the definition for “scat queen”.

So, not only did Peter use an online dictionary that hasn’t existed for five years (Which makes me wonder how he looked up the definition on it. Did he download the site to his computer years ago?), but he didn’t even use the right entry!

Not that I expected accuracy from this loon, mind you.

Timothy Kincaid
May 31st, 2008 | LINK

PiaSharn

Robert Scott’s Gay Slang Dictionary can be found here. But, as you correctly noted, he uses a false definition. I don’t think it is due to inaccuracy but rather dishonesty.

To define “scat” as “a gay male who…” is convenient. It suggests that scat is a purely homosexual occurrance.

So LaBarbera just lied.

a. mcewen
May 31st, 2008 | LINK

I have emailed Peter and asked him to clarify and make corrections regarding his inferrence of bestiality, scat and the LGBT community.

Betcha he will ignore it.

revtj commented on LaBarbera Blames Gays for Heterosexual Beastiality Porn : PinkNews.co.uk
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David Malcolm
May 31st, 2008 | LINK

Actually Luther used to say if you wanna get rid of the devil you needed to fart and he’d leave you alone. Apparently the devil is rather proper…

Johno
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

You can find references to heterosexuals enjoying scat all over the place in popular culture, usually as humor but in reference to real pornographic material, always involving heterosexuals: just off the top of my head: Superbad, Borat, (The number one comedies of last year…) South Park, Not Another Teen Movie, 2 Girls 1 Cup….on and on and on…

Bill S
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

I wonder if he has a fetish for lying? Maybe that’s why he does it so often-it’s a turn-on for him to be caught in one.

Leo
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

Scat means sh*t. Period. The word is not specific to gays or straights.

A person is not “a scat” the nasty stuff that comes out of them is scat.

Even though in Pete’s case I’d say both he and the stuff that comes out of him is scat.

Jason D
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

“That is, excrement, which to us at Americans For Truth is proof that Satan is alive and well in this world.”

Excrement is proof that satan is alive and well in the world? The existence of poo is proof of the devil? I wonder if the existence of earwax prooves? Dumbo is alive?

I’ve been laughing for about five minutes about that.

Leo
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

Coprophilia, or scat play, appears in “120 days of Sodom” written by Sade in the 18th century. And is depicted in Pasolini’s movie adaption, Saló. The point being there’s nothing new nor specifically gay about the fetish.

The idea has been around long before there was any modern gay identity.

Ephilei
June 1st, 2008 | LINK

I thought scat was a way of singing jazz? This makes me suspicious of Ella Fitzgerald.

TJ McFisty
June 2nd, 2008 | LINK

Well, Leo, Petey Pie can argue that Salo is directed by a gay man, therefore, it’s a gay thing only even though the story is based on het acts. Just had to get that out there before he did. And there is actually a “gay” kiss after the big coprophilia scene although the subtext is more about “You’ll spare at the end of this week if I sleep with you.”

Don’t get too excited, Petey, there’s also a big pee-on-me scene between a very young girl and the Duke.

Only mentioning this given Petey doesn’t care about substance, just acts.

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June 2nd, 2008 | LINK

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“Du sollst kein falsches Zeugnis von Dir geben wider Deinem Nächsten.” « Steven Milverton
February 19th, 2009 | LINK

[…] LaBarbera hat, wie er selbst schreibt, die Bilder auf den DVD-Hüllen abgedeckt. Natürlich nur zum Schutze seiner Leser, damit diese sich nicht ergötzen erschrecken über das pornografische Material, das Männer bei teuflischen sexuellen Aktivitäten zeigt. Doch LaBarbera hat, wie immer, nicht sorgfältig gearbeitet. Der aufmerksame schwule Betrachter bemerkt unten links auf der Fotografie, dass da etwas nicht stimmt. Timothy Kincaid vom Box Turtle Bulletin ist der Sache nachgegangen und hat dabei Folgendes herausgef… […]

Eyrev
September 7th, 2009 | LINK

I am gay. I enjoy scat. And I am American and I vote.

Don’t judge me!

Eyrev
eyrev.cbcr@gmail.com

"Du sollst kein falsches Zeugnis von Dir geben wider Deinem Nächsten." | Steven Milverton
February 25th, 2010 | LINK

[…] LaBarbera hat, wie er selbst schreibt, die Bilder auf den DVD-Hüllen abgedeckt. Natürlich nur zum Schutze seiner Leser, damit diese sich nicht ergötzen erschrecken über das pornografische Material, das Männer bei teuflischen sexuellen Aktivitäten zeigt. Doch LaBarbera hat, wie immer, nicht sorgfältig gearbeitet. Der aufmerksame schwule Betrachter bemerkt unten links auf der Fotografie, dass da etwas nicht stimmt. Timothy Kincaid vom Box Turtle Bulletin ist der Sache nachgegangen und hat dabei Folgendes herausgef… […]

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