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A “Guest Post” from Shirley Phelps: Nine Reasons Why “God HATES Colorado”

Jim Burroway

August 29th, 2008

The Democratic National Convention is over. The Obama has been nominated, the speeches have been made, and now everyone is beginning their long treks home, inspired by the closing night and energized for the fall campaign.

The convention drew quite a few people to Denver, many of them with differing agendas and messages. Among them was a contingent from Westboro Baptist, the famous God-Hates-Fags brand of “Christians.” BTB contributing author Daniel Gonzales recently moved to Denver, and when he learned that the WBC folks have labeled the entire state as the “land of the Sodomites,” he wondered how all of Colorado happened to earn such a reputation. So he decided to write to Shirley Phelps:

Good morning Shirley,

I’m one of Jeremy Hooper’s activist friends out of Denver and I also write for a local gay magazine (the gayzette) here so I had a question about your DNC press release, specifically “Colorado – Land
of the Sodomites.” Could you elaborate on how you reached that determination? Most locals would agree Denver can be pretty gay at times but I’m curious what the state as a whole did to earn this title.

I would be happy to print your response in it’s entirety (as long as it’s not like a thousands words) and may swing by one of your protest sites to say hi during your visit.

thanks,
Dan Gonzales

Ms. Shirley’s response managed to cross the thousand word threshold — 1,860 words, to be exact — listing nine reasons why “God HATES Colorado.” It’s robably too long to appear on the pages of the Gayzette, but since we strive to present differing points of view from time to time on this web site, we thought you might be interested in what’s on her mind.

Or then again, maybe not. To me, it all has the quality of a car wreck — you know its ugly, but you can’t help but look. So go on. You know you want to.


Good morning Dan(iel) :) Daniel was greatly beloved by his God – and that is just goodness – if God would say that about me, all would be well! I would recommend a reading of Daniel 9 – amazing words and perfect for this hour! Daniel was permitted to see these days that we live in and how it was going to look – he was so horrified at the sight of it, that at one point, he passed clean out! The last several chapters of the short and excellent book of Daniel would lay out those details.

I would be happy to tell you why they are land of the Sodomite Damned!

Begin with this – God hates Doomed america because God hates fags and God hates fag enablers!! Denver and the rest of Colorado is FULL of fag enablers. They are busy hating each other, when the Lord their God has commended them to LOVE each other! Here – let me find that for you where God defined for you how that standard looks – you know I can, to wit:

Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. . . but thoushalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Here is where my love explained it and did a most excellent job – you might
like it :):

Every day things are happening in Colorado to show the wrath of God and his smiting rod that abides upon the children of disobedience called Colorado, and you guys just go stomping along like brute beasts ignoring the warnings – check out now: Mic 6:9 The LORD’S voice crieth unto the city, and the man of wisdom shall see thy name: hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it.

The promise of God to a people such as this Doomed american nation of rebels against their God is that he will still have compassion upon you. His compassion is that he sends his people to warn you, and he said – when I do that, LEAVE THEM ALONE! But not really dumb Colorado. No – early on in our 18 year ministry, you dummies distinguished yourselves as particularly virulent haters of God and thus haters of his people. I will list a few of the things you did and then tell you what that means for you:

1. Church lady – I know you know about the so-called church lady daily faxes filled with lies and slander against the people of God for NO cause except that we were determined to do our duty to God and man in the early days of our ministry – right out of Colorado Springs, CO. All under cover of secrecy – not out on the public streets where light can shine upon your words and deeds and be tested.

2. Boulder, CO – a group of 7 mostly young ladies were set upon – their tires slashed and so forth – mobbed at the Colorado University of Perverts there.

3. Colorado Springs, CO – the mayor came out personally to our picket in about March, 2005 and handed us a letter saying that we were NOT welcome – YIKES – the Mayor – the government – who the hell cares what the government has to say ABOUT RELIGION??

4. The Law – oh yes – in March, 2006, 31 of our people stood outside your statehouse warning you that passing that law trying to make it a CRIME to stand on a PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY and serve God in truth – oh my – WOE unto you Colorado.

5. Boulder, CO – one lone faithful servant of God from WBC stood with a banner – FEAR GOD – NOT FAGS and you can imagine what that looked like – it took a line of police officers just to make those brute bastards behave!

6. Your blind, brute beast Supreme Court sticking it’s nose where it HAD NO BUSINESS told the mother in the domestic relations matter that she could NOT take her children to a church that said in a most wimpy, whiney, apologetic fashion say that the homosexual life style might not be such a good idea. YIKES! The Supreme Court of Clueless Colorado needs to shut the hell up!! God hates them!

7. Standing on your streets in Golden, CO, in 2003 the loving and tolerant pigs there used our picket line for target practice with full bottles of pop and eggs and other assorted projectiles, all because we said – Cheney is pushing a perverse agenda and his filthy dyke daughter is the product of the curse of God upon him and his house because he has policies of rebellion against God and his commandments and standards. God hates Cheney so WHAT is Doomed america doing with this beast as VP? Good question that!

8. 1999 we stood on the streets of Trinidad, CO – the police were excellent, but the people are perverse – there is the Mecca for Doomed american perverts to get snipped and clipped and mutilated so that their outside is as grotesque as their dark evil hearts – but you know, at the end of the day, you cannot change your chromosomes!!

9. October, 2002, we were at Colorado State University – they were punishing some frat house because they made fun of fags. Thereby sending a message to EVERY young person in Doomed colorado that if they dare speak against their idol the fags, they will be likewise punished.

In all, we have been into CO about 30 times – all powerful efforts to get you to understand that the Standards of God are NOT on the table to be disposed of, AT YOUR WILL!! God does not change and you know it! Every single person in that state is responsible for the terrible wrath that you brought upon your children. When Columbine happened in April of 1999, it should have been a wake up call – but NO – NOT ONE PERSON rose up in Colorado to say – we should REPENT – we should mourn for our sins! WE DID OUR DUTY THEN TOO! We were there when they had the big squall fest.

The men of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah, but did Colorado? NO – so here are the two places in the scriptures that best lay out your current situation – check it:

Isaiah 1 – and remember, Isaiah was preaching several hundred years after the destruction of Sodom, and he was preaching to DOOMED Israel – just like we preach to DOOMED america.

Isaiah 1:2 ¶ Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
10 ¶ Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Good stuff that!

Now – here is the very blue print for your destruction that now is appearing on the landscape and daily comes into sharper focus – shortly, you will see the full face of it in all of its EXCELLENT glory! It is BEAUTIFUL in it’s simplicity!! Read these words with distinction and weep and mourn for your great error!

2 Chronicles 36:11 ¶ Zedekiah was one and twenty years old when he began to reign, and reigned eleven years in Jerusalem.
12 And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD his God, and humbled not himself before Jeremiah the prophet speaking from the mouth of the LORD.
13 And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel.
14 Moreover all the chief of the priests, and the people, transgressed very much after all the abominations of the heathen; and polluted the house of the LORD which he had hallowed in Jerusalem.
15 And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place:
16 But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy.

I would go on, because the words are so many, but you asked me to be brief :) I’m just sayin . . . God HATES Colorado, land of the sodomite damned. The Lord is coming and america is DOOMED!!

Your best friend,

Shirley Phelps-Roper
Exuberant servant of the Living God (his name is Man of War and his name is Jealous) in these very last days of all!!

Oh – please do stop and visit – any friend of Jeremy’s is a friend of mine! I will be with the group that is in Denver on Wednesday and Thursday.

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Tavdy
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

God hates fags; God hates fag-enablers; God hates Colorado; God hates America, God hates the world…

For someone who is claimed to be Love, God does a hell of a lot of hating!

Jason D
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Oh my, Shirley!

Why is Shirley Phelps-Roper starting to sound like Betty Bowers: America’s Best Christian

Seriously, that has to be the sweetest way of saying “oh my, you’re doomed, punkin!”
It’s like fire and brimstone with a tall glass of saccharin.

Jarred
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

I’m with Tavdy. I also have to point out one line from Shirley’s response:

“They are busy hating each other, when the Lord their God has commended them to LOVE each other!”

There are probably situations more ironic than a prominent WBC member criticizing others for hating others rather than loving them as God commanded, but I’d have a hard time suggesting any.

Timothy Kincaid
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Sigh. And here I thought that California was the land of the Sodomite Damned. I’m so disappointed.

Rob
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Actually, at least according to the WBC, Canada is the home of the Sodomite Damned, because we have SSM, AND we had the nerve to deny the WBC entrance to the country to set up their oh so entertaining pickets at the funeral of a young man tragically murdered then beheaded on a bus.

I think it’s because we have more sodomites and we are more damned.

Jarred
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Take heart, everyone! The truth is, it’s all the home of the Sodomite Damned! Basically, if you’re not living in the WBC compound, you can rest in the comfort that you are firmly entrenched in the home of the Sodomite Damned.

Rob
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Perhaps we should re-model the kitchen…. ;-)

Patrick
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

“Your best friend,
Shirley Phelps-Roper”
“Oh – please do stop and visit – any friend of Jeremy’s is a friend of mine!”
Crikey! Doesn’t she remember Dan(iel)is her best friend? She obviously has the attention span of a gnat, she doen’t even remember what she wrote in the same letter…as she is writing it. How can anyone (including Shirley) take her seriously?

larry
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

I hear more than one person speaking when I read her letter. There is clearly more than one personality in Shirley Phelps’ psyche. Back in the Bible times, they considered this a demonic possession, but it was and is actually a tragic case of mental illness.

Erica
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

“Colorado University of Perverts”? Wish I’d know that existed when I was applying to schools…

I agree with Jason, it’s rare to see a state (or really anything) damned so cheerfully. It’s like being attacked by a horde of rabid Disney cartoon chipmunks… surreal.

Rick Brentlinger
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

1800+ words and nothing said about the grace of God – very strange.

Has “Sister” Shirley ever read Matthew 22:36-40 or Romans 13:8-10 or I Corinthians 13?

According to Jesus and Paul, love should mediate our interactions with each other.

The grace of God is stronger than wacky Phelpsian ranting – click my name above for proof.

Rick Brentlinger

John
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

I read a detailed rundown of the Phelps family history done by a Kansas newspaper a few years ago. I can’t find it now on the web.

It was a very sad story about abuse and exploitation. These people have been subjected to more craziness than you could imagine. Even without knowing anything about the family’s background, it is hard even to pay the most passing attention to this group and not sense just how pathetic they are. But the more you do know about them, the more pathetic they appear.

We’ll see what happens with this family when the father is dead and gone for a while.

Charles Lanigan
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Wow, sounds like gibberish to me. What a freak!

Michael
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

And to think I live in San Francisco! Livin’ la vida dammned!
The question I always want to ask WBC is how they can afford to travel like they do. As far as I know it’s an incestuous little family group and they’re all lawyers, but, still, it costs lots of the Almighty dollar to ferry them from funeral to funeral. Where does all the money come from? Do they own any business?

Jason D
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

John, you might be thinking of “addicted to hate” which is more an unlicensed autobiography of Fred Phelps. Unfortunately Fred was able to harass and sue the writer until it simply could not be published, but it does exist on the internet.

Michael, a lot of the early Phelps money came from frivalous lawsuits and forcing the kids to sell candy. I don’t know what they do now.

John
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

Jason D. Actually I wasn’t thinking of “addicted to hate.”

I did find the thing I was thinking of at the following web address: http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/

I haven’t read this in a long time (and my memory is of this thing being differently organized) but it is a complilation of articles and other things put together by the Topeka Capitol Journal in Topeka, Kansas.

Lynn David
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

My first encounter with the Phelps was in Lawrence, KS, about 1984/5 where I believe they were picketting the school (Univ Kansas) over its abortion policy or a women’s clinic on the outskirts of the university. I was rather taken aback at the few anti-gay signs mixed in not to mention the profanity. It abused my sensibilities. Luckily I had a somewhat progressive Baptist minister to speak with at my uncle’s funeral in KCMO (his brother). I’m just glad it wasn’t a Catholic priest or I might have been compelled to confess, repent and be degayed.

cowboy
August 29th, 2008 | LINK

John,

I read the long Phelps’ expose’ a couple of years ago. It’s fascinating reading. You come away feeling pity for the family.

Reading it helped me understand where they get all the money to travel to all those protests. They know how the legal system works…they made most of their money from winning nefarious lawsuits. And yet, they criticize the very system that made them rich.

But perhaps the most telling part for me is the potty-mouth language these people use. As religious people they have a peculiar way with a predilection for using graphic foul language. Shirley could make a longshoreman/sailor/prison-inmate blush. By their fruits you shall know them…and most of their fruit is spoiled and rotten.

Plus, you will note the elder patriarch Phelps lately is having some issues with mental health. It’s not surprising. It is not surprisingly that amount of raging anger chronically coursing through his brain is bound to eventually have some negative consequences.

David
August 30th, 2008 | LINK

Some shrink could get very wealthy, even providing treatment at half price.

It reminds me of some of the homeless people I used to hear talking to themselves – incoherent, self-contradicting, rambling off onto tangent after tangent, as if there was no sense of self in charge.

Darn it, you’ve made me feel sorry for her.

Shirley Phelps-Roper
August 31st, 2008 | LINK

You undiciplined brutes. The LOVE of God is reserved for the penitent – NOT the rebels. If you do not repent – that is – change your mind and change your conduct, you have NO right to discuss the love of God.

Paul is talking about the way servants of God must love one another. Other than that, Christ and every other writer of the scriptures agree on this – you must love your neighbor as yourself and your enemy and everyone and God told you what that looks like. It is getting out in the public places and warning them to flee from the wrath to come – warning them that their sin will take them to hell! If you don’t do that, you hate each other in your hearts! You can’t change that – God did that! It is HIS work and it is HIS standards that rule!

So – from this happy and thankful servant of God, I warn you again – OBEY YOUR GOD!! Put away your filthy manner of life – shut your mouth and OBEY YOUR GOD! Hell is real – ask Matt!

Your best friend,

Shirley Phelps-Roper
8/31/08

Priya Lynn
August 31st, 2008 | LINK

Relax Shirley, gay people have every bit as much right to discuss the love of god as you do. Gay people don’t hate each other, hate is your bag.

Duncan
September 1st, 2008 | LINK

If you replace all the mentions of the Supreme Being (obey, love of etc) in Shirley’s post with ‘me’, it starts to make sense.

Michael
September 1st, 2008 | LINK

Dear Sailor Tongued Shirley,
From this happy and thankful gay man, “I warn you again – OBEY YOUR GOD!! Put away your filthy manner of life – shut your mouth and OBEY YOUR GOD! Hell is real” – ask Jessie. Hell, ask poppa Fred about the hell he’s slipping into.
Consider this a small part of my “getting out in the public places and warning (you) to flee from the wrath to come” you naughty girl.

Emily K
September 1st, 2008 | LINK

I can’t ask Matt anything because he’s in Heaven now with Harvey Milk, Jonathan and David, and saints Sergius and Bacchus.

Ben in Oakland
September 3rd, 2008 | LINK

Gee, shirley. I can just feel the love.

But i’m not an undisciplined brute. I just haven’t been subject to YOUR discipline. but then, neither have you.

I would hate to live my life in the emotional roil that is your life. That must just wear you out. Just reading your spew wears me out.

Ben in Oakland
September 3rd, 2008 | LINK

Dear Shirley;

You’re right. I am an undisciplined brute. I have so much real work to do, and I promised myself that today I wouldn’t write. but here I am, anyway, because I actually have an opportunity to communicate with one of the extremely rare but depressingly visible Phelps Clan (genus: primate. Species: HOMO non-sapiens: variety: ignoramus invincit) hoping you’ll return to a website full of the people you love to hate– and clearly hate to love– and read my efforts.

I think you will, of course. One thing I have noticed in these blogs is the persistence of the desire on the parts of the moralizers and condemners to hang around and gaze at the sodomites. So many of you are so clearly fascinated by what you see. Titillated, even, just a teeny WEENY bit.

Or wallowing in it. That’s my theory.

Stephen Donaldson had an interesting definition of corruption, moral corruption. Corruption is becoming that which you hate. When you wallow in what you conceive of as our ‘filth’, you get to be a pig without ever having to take a bath afterwards. I wish I could manage that level of self-delusion, But you know, I really can’t convince myself that when I am standing knee deep in pig-crap that I’m really smelling the Rose of Sharon. But that is the nature of corruption, isn’t it? your just laborin’ in the vineyards, and doin’ God’s will. How sweet is that?

I don’t visit Townhall, or FOF, or AFA, or godhatesfags websites because I can see that they are clearly pig crap, and I don’t want to inject that into my life. It smells bad. Yet, here you are, and the occasional anti-gay poster, just itching to tell us what’s wrong with us.

Now I know, of course, that I am probably wasting my time writing to you. I am well aware that your mind is closed more tightly than Jerry Falwell’s sphincter would be, were he still with us and not roasting in hell forever. Amazing that a mind so closed should be attached to a mouth so open, but it’s an incongruity that’s common enough.

My wonderful late partner had an interesting theory of humanity. (He was a sweet man, knew the value of friends, wise, witty, with a knack for using words precisely and clearly. I’m sure you would have hated him in your own loving way. And no, he’s not burning in hell. That’s your need to believe, not ours). Anyway, Larry thought that the world was divided between two groups of people: those who were “on a mission” and those who were not.

People “on a mission”– let’s call them missionaries– have a number of attributes. Oddly, because their outlook is so negative in terms of how they see things, much of what they do is negative (opposed to happiness) in its means and outcomes. They are defined as much by the negative and what they are not, than they are by anything positive and what they are. They are not content to be happy, to live their lives, or content even to be merely content. Unfortunately, because they ARE “on a mission”, they are also not content to let other people to live their lives and be happy, either. They have to manage. They have to interfere. They almost always have their panties in a bunch, their knickers in a twist, about something– or more often, someone. Unfortunately, that someone had better watch out, because those people are ON A MISSION.

They do not understand these kinds of concepts, these basics of civilized living: Leave everyone the hell alone. Mind your own business. Judge not lest ye be judged. Look not for the speck, etc. Be kind. Be truthful. Be polite. Don’t be rude. be considerate of others. Do as you would be done by. Love not hate.

Hatred of others is NEVER a positive thing, either for the hater or the hatee. Look how much time and money you and your charming family spend trying to make other people as miserable as you are. where’s the love, Shirley? Where’s the love? Wouldn’t you rather be on a picnic with your children in a sound-of-music alpine meadow than screaming at people who just lost a loved one?

Well, obviously, no you wouldn’t. Values, Shirley, Values. If everyone preferred picnics to holy wars, we would have a lot more picnics and a lot few holy wars. The picnic basket industry would be booming.

Shirley, I must impart one of the greatest pearls of wisdom I have come across in my 58 years. In the immortal words of Mammy Yokum: Good is better than evil because it’s nicer. It supplants 99% of what passes for morality in the bible, religion in general, and most people. Jesus said the same thing: “By their fruits shall you know them.”

Yet in our world, what claims to be ‘the good’ frequently has a mean face, nasty means, and an unpleasant end for someone– usually someone else. Missionaries almost always claim the represent ‘the good’. Fortunately, many people who are missionaries are innocuous, but frequently, nonetheless, quite annoying. Some, like you Phelpsters, are mostly annoying, and not really innocuous. But fortunately for all of us you’re only annoying, not effective. Except for the people whose lives you briefly shatter when you show up at the funerals.

Shirley, you are really a class act. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that picketing a funeral is rude, whether you know the people or not?

But even that is temporary, though annoying.

Unfortunately, there are also missionaries who are well beyond annoying and innocuous, because they are effective. George bush invading the middle east. Hitler murdering 6 million Jews. The crusades. the temperance movement, mother of organized crime in America. Communism. Fascism. Protestants murdering Catholics, and vice versa. Witch burners. Slave holders. The religious right. The PLO. Sharia law. 9/11 bombers. radical Islam.

And anti-gay crusaders. And on and on and on.

I know it is your ambition to be an effective agent of darkness and misery. What a scary ambition. (Mine is to live to a ripe old age, happy and healthy, with my husband and our numerous friends and family.)

But I’m here to remind you of something. Your ambition will be thwarted. You will never achieve the greatness of, say Ayatollah Khomeini, when it comes to being a true missionary. In the end, you are not great.

You are merely annoying.

Indecent Idealist
September 4th, 2008 | LINK

quote= Shirley Phelps-Roper

“…Other than that, Christ and every other writer of the scriptures agree on this – you must love your neighbor as yourself and your enemy and everyone…”

Uh, see, I love myself. I love myself frequently, and uh, passionately. So, in keeping with Christ’s teachings, I love other women as I love myself. Frequently and passionately. Hee hee. And that’s what gay men do, too. Yep, I’m living a good christian life.

And also… do those ramblings in the letter about why god hates Colorado make anyone else want to move there?

Ben in Oakland
September 4th, 2008 | LINK

Well, waaaaaah. I was really hoping Shirl would write back. I’ve always wanted to talk to a Phelpster– at a safe distance.

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