Mormons Don’t Oppose SOME Gay Rights…. Unless they Can

Timothy Kincaid

November 14th, 2008

I’ve seen obnoxious self-serving hypocisy before, but this totally takes the prize for duplicity and double-speak.

While being ever so wounded that anyone might think they were homophobic, the Mormon Church released a statement that they do, they truly-ooly do, support gay rights.

… the Church does not object to rights for same-sex couples regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches.

Well this was a surprise to Equality Utah who had been battling the church for just such rights. So they called their bluff. They asked the Mormon Church for support for Utah gays on those rights they think are acceptable.

Now Michael Otterson, a church spokesman, has their response. (Washington Post)

Otterson said the church’s statement was based on civil unions in California and that no decision has been made regarding similar rights in Utah.

“That’s got to be a matter of very careful analysis and discussion. I don’t want to give the impression that the church is saying civil unions in all cases are okay,” Otterson said.

Ohhhhh. So Mormons are loving and caring and of so fond of rights that they have no chance whatsoever of revoking.

What a foul steaming pile.

Marsha

November 14th, 2008

What I find interesting is that nowhere does it say “special” in any of the rights listed, so here we have an church official recognizing that these are simply rights, not “special rights”, and providing them would not be “special” in any way. Kinda blows that whole theory.

Patrick

November 14th, 2008

Let me paraphrase: “We have no opposition to gays having rights, unless of course they actually have those rights”.

Pomo

November 15th, 2008

Oh Lord… I think I’m going to vomit in my mouth. Can people NOT see what they’re doing?

John

November 15th, 2008

More examples of Mormon Church leaders lying. If we collected them all in one book, it might be heavier than the average Bible.

John A.

November 15th, 2008

Joseph Smith was a polygamist and a pedophile. This is their example of a noble family man?

Its been my experience that God has an infinitely twisted sense of humor. I hope every one of them have to “celestially” marry a person of the same gender…and one who has horrible fashion sense and smells of onion bagels.

homer

November 15th, 2008

How do you spell hypocrite? M.O.R.M.O.N.

johnson

November 15th, 2008

So, Civil Unions are ok in California (where we don’t rule) but not for Utah (where we do)??? As I expected, more hypocrisy and lies from America’s leading Theocrats.

Joe Kort

November 15th, 2008

I have so many gay and lesbian clients trying to clean up the trauma and damage done to them from growing up Mormon. It is truly spiritual abuse and now they have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder coming out and deprogramming themselves from the lies, mean-spiritedness and hate of this church about homosexuality.

And now the rest of use are experiencing the trauma and hate from this church.

There is the platinum rule which I wish they would abide by:

DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY WANT TO BE DONE UNTO THEM!!!!

Leave us alone. If they don’t want gay marriage, than do have one!!!!

Chino Blanco

November 15th, 2008

Thanks for catching that Otterson quip.

Still trying to have it both ways.

Not for much longer, hopefully.

Timothy Kincaid

November 17th, 2008

I want to remind our readers that we are NOT anti-Mormon. We do condemn the hypocrisy, hidden agenda, political machinations, and condescention of the LEADERSHIP of the church, just as we would any other church.

But let’s not have any more blatant anti-Mormon comments. If they stop their anti-gay campaign and their efforts towards theocracy I’ll have nothing negative to say about them.

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