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Illinois Family Institute’s VideoFAIL! (Update: It’s back in all its red-scare glory)

Jim Burroway

April 15th, 2009

The Illinois Family Institute, one of only twelve anti-gay groups in America listed by the SPLC as a hate group, tried to out-fear NOM’s fearmongering commercial released last week with a fearmongering video of their own. The IFI’s video, which endorsed the current status quo in schools where kids are being bullied and hounded into killing themselves, was posted as a response to the Day of Silence slated for Friday, April 17.

I had hoped to post about the IFI’s video this evening, but guess what? It’s no longer on YouTube. There’s nothing but a note saying “This video has been removed by the user.” And the original link on the IFI web page bragging about this video is also gone.

So what gives?

JoeMyGod seems to have some of the details leading up to its withdrawal. The IFI originally listed a Baptist Church in Glendale, Arizona as a producer of the video. In fact, the video referenced that church’s DareToStand.org web site. But that church denied having anything to do with the clip. They have posted a note, which reads:

Please note: The Illinois Family Institute posted an article on its site April 15, entitled Dare to Stand regarding a video produced by a church in Illinois. Because the radio ministry of Northwest Valley Baptist Church coincidently [sic] bears the name Dare to Stand, we were mistakenly connected with it.

Neither Dare to Stand radio nor Northwest Valley Baptist Church is in any way involved with the development of this video or with the web site connected with it (www.dare2stand.com). Our website is www.daretostand.org. Please contact the Illinois Family Institute at www.illinoisfamily.org for more information.

The IFI’s web page was then changed to identify the video’s creator as Grace Gospel Center in Bensonville, Illinois. And then sometime after that, the video and the web page both vanished into thin air.

So I can’t give you a blow-by-blow analysis of the video’s false claims. Just as well though. When they are putting out false claims about who is actually involved in making their own video, you know it has problems.

Update: It’s baaaack:

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This video reminds me of a short movie that was put out in the 1950’s which imagined the United States invaded by the Communists. It featured Jack Webb and was called Red Nightmare:

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Piper
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

Video is back up, and wow is it a doozy.

Timothy Kincaid
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

1. “inundate them in a continuous flood of gay related advertising, presented in the least offensive fashion possible.” is not from “a gay marketing firm. It’s advice in a 1989 book, After the Ball.

Usually anti-gays call this book “a homosexual manifesto” even though I’m probably the only person I know who’s read the book. But these good Christians have now magically turned this 20 year old out-of-print book into a marketing firm.

2. I haven’t tracked down Dallas’ “respirator” quote, but someone I’m thinking that wasn’t said or written after the introduction of pretease inhibitors in 1996.

But at least they removed Paul Cameron’s “average age of death is 42″ crap.

I’m guessing that this may be coming from Joe Dallas because he’s quoted and the first reference. But in any case, If either Joe or Exodus Internation has even the last shred of decency (even the tiniest bit of integrity), they’ll ask to be pulled from this manifesto of hate.

wendy
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

gosh – where do you even begin? This is horrendous!

Dan
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

You can find it on their site at:

http://www.illinoisfamily.org/news/contentview.asp?c=34355

I also saved a copy.

Cooner
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

The video is up on YouTube again … but both ratings and comments have been disabled.

Classy, guys, real classy.

Kristie
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

It’s amazing how they make it look like taking a stand FOR bigotry and intolerance is some noble act, some patriotic duty! You can imagine those kids at the end walking off so proud of themselves saying things like, “We sure showed those fags, huh!?” or “That’ll teach those bleedaing hearts to try and stop us from verbally abusing, harrassing and bullying homos in our own school!”

WHAT a freakshow!I can’t believe any decent parent would allow their child to be a part of this video. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Lynn David
April 15th, 2009 | LINK

The IFI must have been tea-bagged….

a. mcewen
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

The video is back up on Youtube and it’s UGLY! The comments and tag sections are disabled with good reason. Talk about NOM all over again.

TJ McFisty
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

Read After the Ball back in the early 90s. The double eXX read everything remotely LGBT scholarly so therefore, I had to also. Used to agree with the “can’t drive a wedge butt in first” metaphor, but feh, our situation’s not that cut and dry.

Jim Burroway
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

This video reminds me of a short movie that was put out in the 1950’s which imagined the United States invaded by the Communists. It featured Jack Webb. Anyone know what the name of the movie?

andrea d
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

Good Gods these people have issues. I respect their right to believe in whatever they want but they are seriously over indulging in hyperbolic thought here. They’re making it out as though teachers and students are forced to be silent and … and it’s all just too ignorant for words really.

jim
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

I barely got thru that drivel. I can’t believe people who have been parading around their values and bedroom activities for centuries would presume to have the right to stifle anyone else’s activities in the privacy of their own homes.

David
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

Does anyone else hear reverand Lovejoy’s wife on the Simpsons shrieking “Won’t somebody please think of the children!” ?

Candace
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

1. Why doesn’t the teacher have duct tape on her mouth? Aren’t the eductors supposed to be silent like the students?

2. Those poor kids look like they’re scared to death and clinically depressed.

3. You can tell the teacher is a Baptist fundie because she has big hair and a skirt below her knees. (I was taught in fundie high school and fundie college that women must cover their knees because they look like breasts and cause men to sin through the eye-gate.)

This is the same crock-o-crap that I heard 40 years ago but the names have changed from commies to hippies to mothers working outside the home to abortionists to The Gay. I have noted that ignorance, bigotry and stupidity seem to remain constant within the fundie christian community even with the passage of time.

Maajour
April 16th, 2009 | LINK

In case the video gets pulled again, send me an email.

sinner
April 17th, 2009 | LINK

as one poster (jim) made the comment about keeping it in the bedroom the same holds true to the folks cought up in the sin of choosing to engage in homosexual activities.Keep it in the bed room and stay the hell away from the schools.Gay is not, has not, nor ever will be, a good choice for anyone to make.Gay it is certainly not somthing to be taught to children as a good choice ,to say gay is ok is like teaching them that reigndeer really can fly.

Kimberly Saunders
April 17th, 2009 | LINK

This is far worse than the NOM Gathering Storm Ad–this is really frightening.

I e-mailed Dave Smith to ask him why the comments are disabled. He said it was because of the “hateful intolerance of gay activists.” I responded by saying that Dare To Stand itself is an act of hateful intolerance.

Ignorance and bigotry remains strong in the fundamentalist community from generation to generation because many of these people (I have fundamentalist relatives) home school their kids or send them to Christian schools, most of which indoctrinate more than they educate. These children are raised in a cult, basically, and have few opportunities to engage in outside ideas without risking the wrath of their community.

Fundamentalists leaders know that the only way to maintain their power and keep a flock is to breed ignorance and fear–allowing any independent thinking or activity will mean a loss of followers. I feel sorry for my fundamentalist relatives–they never had the chance to learn how to think for themselves, and they’ll probably never escape the cult.

PeeJ
April 17th, 2009 | LINK

Wowzers. I see why SLPC says they’re a hate group.

I recall there being a huge brouha when Kirk and Madsen published it back in whenever. That book fractured the community and generated a small “civil war.”

Of course, we’re much scarier when we’re one single monstrous entity, all rigidly following our Radical Homosexual Agenda (3d ed., publ. Gay Mafia Press, San Francisco) script.

PGMT
April 17th, 2009 | LINK

This video somohow reminded my of Pink Floyd’s the Wall, I don’t know if that was intentional.

Anyway… scary stuff, the worst thing is that if you share some pressumptions it may actuallly convince you. Here in Mexico I know a lot of smart, otherwise reflective, people who would absolutly bite this bait. Back in the day (before I started to do my research) maybe even I would have believe some of this (yep, embarassing, I know).

Jim, I need your point by point analysis on this, in case some of my fellow thomistic philosophers watch this video and start using it to further their argument.

Timothy Coon
April 18th, 2009 | LINK

Absolutely freaking grotesque…….while it’s not as up front psychopathic as the WBC, it’s still very insidious the way it tries to pretend that the “Christians” are the ones who are the victims. How dare they be denied the chance to bully & hurl hate at others.

FGT
April 18th, 2009 | LINK

That school in Anytown USA could use a little integration. All kids are white; all teachers have tight hair, wear long skirts and walk in high heels all day long.

Hope nobody gets caught chewing gum. It’s detention for the first offense and Hell for the second.

Matt G
April 19th, 2009 | LINK

These people are nothing but cowards and bullies. First they treat any group of people they hate like trash, then when those people fight back, they clench their bibles and US flags and scream victim.

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