15 responses

  1. Timothy Kincaid
    July 16, 2009

    Well said, Jim.

    In addition, 30 states currently have hate crimes protections that apply to sexual orientation. They range from Washington to Maine to Texas.

    The only instance which the anti-gays can point at is Marcavage in Philadelphia. And, as you pointed out, that was an example of how well the court system worked.

  2. Lynn David
    July 17, 2009

    Well, truth has become a scarce commodity among the anti-gay crowd.

  3. Christopher Waldrop
    July 17, 2009

    Lynn, not to nitpick, but saying it “has become a scarce commodity” implies that the anti-gay crowd ever relied on truth to push their prejudice. As we’ve seen repeatedly those who oppose giving LGBT people the same rights as everyone else have no qualms about lying.

  4. Jason D
    July 17, 2009

    slight typo Jim.

    “Canada also has a hate speech law. Bill C-250 criminalizes certain types of hate speech towards persons of any sexual orientation: homosexuals, bisexuals, or bisexuals.

    I assume you meant to put heterosexuals in there somewhere? :)

    Otherwise great piece. I think most people assume the White Power Groups are completely muzzled and boxed-in by our laws — when it just appears we don’t hear much about them, and they’re not as active or popular as other groups.

    Time to spread this on facebook :)

  5. Richard W. Fitch
    July 17, 2009

    If anyone has ANY doubts that people have the freedom to express hate speech in this country, you need look no farther than the history and headlines made by Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, KS. They have made a highly lucrative enterprise of spreading their venom and then suing when decent people attempt to control this hate. These are the cretins who picketed the funeral of Matt Shepard, as well as the funerals of US Armed Forces personnel who have died in combat in the Middle East. If you can stomach it, visit their website http://www.godhatesfags.com and scan the vitriol that they spew thru the Internet.

  6. Jim Burroway
    July 17, 2009

    Thanks Jason. I corrected the typo.

  7. Timothy (TRiG)
    July 17, 2009

    Britain does have a Bill of Rights.


  8. Jim Burroway
    July 17, 2009

    Thanks Timothy, I’ve modified the article accordingly.

    Britain’s Bill of Rights, like all laws in Britain, are subject to revision and infringement by simple acts of Parliament. They are not enshrined in a constitution and set apart from Parliamentary influence or modification, as the American Bill of Rights are. Interestingly, the British Bill of Rights appears to be limited to placing limits on the King’s powers, not in preserving rights among the commons.

  9. Roberta
    July 18, 2009

    “Hate Bill” Favoritism

    If “hate bill”-obsessed Congress can’t protect Christians from “gays” as much as it wants to protect “gays” from Christians, will Congress be surprised if it can’t protect itself from most everyone? If “hate bills” are forced on captive Americans, they’ll still find ways to sneakily continue to “plant” Biblical messages everywhere. By doing so they’ll hasten God’s judgment on their oppressors as revealed in Proverbs 19:1. (See related web items including “David Letterman’s Hate, Etc.,” “Separation of Raunch and State,” “Michael the Narc-Angel,” and “Bible Verses Obama Avoids.”) Since Congress can’t seem to legislate “morality,” it’s making up for it by legislating “immorality”!

  10. Richard in CA
    July 19, 2009

    Without doubt, this is the best explanation of the hate crimes law I have read. Extremely well researched and written.

  11. Timothy (TRiG)
    July 21, 2009

    The nearest think the UK has to a constitution, though, is the Human Rights Act, which is European legislation. I haven’t examined it properly, but it seems to be pretty good.


  12. Timothy Kincaid
    July 21, 2009


    I had a hard time understanding you. Perhaps fewer scare quotes would lead to a clearer comment.

    You appear to be factually mistaken.

    Congress has long ago passed protection for Christians from gays. Federally, if a gay person targets Christians for hate crimes, the state can request Federal assistance in solving that crime.

    However, before the Matthew Sheppard Hate Crimes bill, if a Christian targeted gay people, the Federal government was not allowed to provide assistance.

    Perhaps you would have been better served by actually reading the bill rather than “sneakily planting” narc-angel raunch comments.

  13. Priya Lynn
    July 21, 2009

    Roberta made the same post on the Truth Win’s Out blog under the name of Bob. Someone there asked for a translation as well. I suggested the comment translated as “Hate crimes law including gays bad. Gays bad, gay-hating Christians good.”

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