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Liberty Counsel and The Peter call the FBI

Timothy Kincaid

November 10th, 2009

lababs2You know how anti-gay activists can rant all day long about the (imagined) evils of homosexuality? How they can make up nonsense and stretch every fetish by some lone gay person into evidence of depravity and perversity? You know how no lie is too extreme, no accusation too foul, no denunciation beyond the bar?

And you know how for those who live day in and day out in a constant state of anti-gay hysteria that any comment, however ironic or benign, that is remotely critical of the bile and venom they spew is an Attack On Christianity, America, and Jesus Himself?

Sadly, some of these nuts have started to believe their own rantings. And to act on them.

Joe. My. God. reports of a reaction by Peter LaBarbera to some comments made on his website.

In response to “Fritz”, a commenter, warning that if social equality is not achieved democratically then some gay extremists might respond with violence, “Tex” said:

“Fritz … you say this like it’s a bad thing?

“Maybe a bit of well-organized terrorism is just what we need, er, I mean ‘civil disobedience.’”

Is the comment tacky? Yes.
Is it silly? Yes.
Is it a credible threat of terrorism? Only a fool would think so.

But LaBarbera is a fool. Because he either believes his own rhetoric or he has decided to use the Federal Bureau of Investigation as his own personal political plaything.

From LaBarbera’s Americans for Truth About Homosexuality site:

The pro-family Christian defense organization Liberty Counsel has contacted the FBI regarding the threatening post.

Peter is accustomed to wild exaggeration and seeking to use any means possible to present himself as a martyr to the nefarious machinations of a sinister gay agenda. And he’s used to those in authority rolling their eyes and laughing off his extremism and hyperbole.

But I think that by involving the FBI he may have overplayed his hand.

The FBI is not known for their sense of humor. And they do not lightly take efforts to distract them from their real job of protecting the nation. Peter’s bogus claims of “terrorism” may work well on an emailed fundraising appeal, but distractions of this sort are not likely to be viewed benignly by overworked investigators.

If, of course, the FBI was really called. LaBarbera isn’t exactly known for his honesty or integrity.

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wackadoodle
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

If that’s a threat than all of 4chan should be rounded up and sent to prison camps. I’ve gotten more threatening messages than that for saying the PS3 sucks.

Regan DuCasse
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

I. Love. Fritz.
He has a straight identical twin brother and their respective reporting on their lives as such is excellent reading on gay/straight sibs in the same families.

I. Love. Fritz!
He can be so funny. Especially when he’s being sarcastic. And when hasn’t any one of us been sarcastic?

But count on the predictable and abject paranoia of the Peter and he can’t tell sarcasm from a real threat.
That’s probably because the Peter has never really BEEN threatened at all. So he wouldn’t know what it really feels like.

In fact, it’s so hysterical how seriously Barber and LaBarbera take THEMSELVES.
I’ve never seen such tiny MANBERRIES on two grown assed, barrel chested men in my LIFE.

They really want other straight men in particular to get as paranoid, and scared as they are of gay people!
The think they are courageous or strong, at THIS level of tattling on every little thing gay people do or say?!

I mean REALLY!

When I think of all the time, affectionate quality time I spend with the gay men and women in my life. At the gym, in classes, at work.
I wonder what parallel universe all these threatening gay people actually live?
The lesbian women I have known and loved like sisters in my life give the straight women Peter knows all these vapors?
Are you kidding me?!

They don’t know ANY gay people. I mean NONE! Where are the ‘gay friends’ they say agree with them or even know Peter exists? Can’t get any to join them at the rallies and press conferences? Wonder why?

And there is no one LESS credible, than people like Peter and Matt who don’t actually KNOW any gay people personally and on a socially intimate peer level basis.
But they sure consult or represent themselves as the superior authorities on the intents and purposes of gay folks and their lives.

I would laugh this hard at these big men with little manberries if they asserted they know ALL about having babies and labor pains and red letter days and cramps, while lecturing to women on the matter.

Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t anyone?
So why do straight people like this get away with whatever they have to say about gay folks?

This isn’t funny in reality, but you get my point.
I. Love. Fritz.
Fritz. ROCKS!

Burr
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

The gay rights movement has been one of the most nonviolent civil rights movements of all time overall.

It’s so laughable that anyone tries to paint it as otherwise.

Regan DuCasse
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

Absolutely right Burr. Another aspect that resembles the original civil rights movement.
When or more of a gay person is murdered, it is always of someone who was ambushed and horrifically brutalized.
The extent of violence to that person even traumatizes who finds the body.
And yet, how does the majority of gay people in this country respond?

Candlelight vigils. Loud, but essentially legal and peaceful protest.
Accessing the courts, due process of law.
Committing to educating and engaging the public in a mostly non confrontational matter at work, play, at family gatherings, at places of worship.

And regardless of somewhat inevitable political defeats, the round of emotional and sometimes angry hurt gets a lot of play in the media.
But this is the anguish of a part of humanity as distinct and essential as the thumb on the hand.

In what OTHER way does the opposition think we SHOULD respond to outrages that prompted the protests/legal challenges/boycotts and picket lines in the first place?
These were not someone taking away a piece of candy, or a seat at the ball game.
These were essential QUALITY OF LIFE issues. Like free association without being violated! Like having a lover in your home without getting arrested. Like being casually affectionate without getting arrested! Like walking along, without being beaten to death worse than a dog.

Like being able to marry so that your loved ones can benefit the most from your commitment to it.

Is THAT something that these straight opponents think is unworthy of a response, anger, pain or a challenge?

Why is less than stoicism characterized as throwing a tantrum or whining? As if having your children or property, dignity or very life taken away and sometimes violently IS something the opposition wouldn’t respond to in the same way?!

Gay folks (and those who support them) are REACTING, not ACTING.

And WHY is the opposition acting at all against gay people? Why turn on members of one’s own family, workplace, faith and educational community?
Why?
What does it gain the straight world at large to ACT against gay people this way?

Burr, I once read a poem called “We Wear The Mask” by Paul Lawrence Dunbar to writing workshop for teens. Mostly gay kids were there, but several were straight kids.
Essentially, it’s about being black and not being expected to SHOW any emotions.
It made white people uncomfortable.

But the gay kids totally related to it. STRONGLY. One girl mentioned how her teacher treated her when he saw her kiss her girlfriend way outside of school as he was getting into his car.
He marched over and upbraided her for the hugs and affection she showed her gf, the way a few straight kids were doing.
Only SHE got the admonishment.

She wanted to cry, but she got angry and the teacher dared her to get upset, putting his finger in their faces.
She said she just got cold and didn’t emote, but it was true what the poem said.
Straight people hate for you to react to the way you FEEL and show it, as much as they excoriate and exaggerate HOW you actually do react.

There is so much neverending depth to the hypocrisy of who does the most damage to who, it seems we’ll NEVER get to the bottom of it, or work back up from it.

Here’s the deal people: we will NEVER be able to NOT offend the opposition, no matter what we do. So therefore, no court should allow for basic civil rights and privileges be denied based on the precedent of such a depth of animus and misrepresentation.
Or based on the presumption that gay people are dehumanized beyond responding to anything no matter what it is.

Quo
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

The gay rights movement has been guilty (at times) of violent and absurd excesses, just as most other political movements have been. There’s nothing surprising or impossible about the idea that some supporters of gay rights would resort to violence, and LaBarbera is not necessarily wrong to take such threats seriously.

As for the FBI not taking bogus threats seriously, note that they have payed attention to threats issued on Wikipedia – and we all know how seriously that website deserves to be taken, don’t we?

wackadoodle
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

Quo defending pathetic hateful bigots like LaBarbera? I’m shocked! SHOCKED! well, not that shocked…

Richard Rush
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

LaBarbera has earned another tribute:

Porno Pete says there’s a big gay threat
And calls the FBI to make us sweat.
His lives in delusion,
So here’s one conclusion:
While vicious, he’s also a space cadet.

a. mcewen
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

All I can say is there may be a method to the madness. I wouldn’t be surprised if LaBarbera and company tried to use those comments in other fights against pro-lgbt legislation.

don
November 10th, 2009 | LINK

realy Quo, tell us when “The gay rights movement has been guilty (at times) of violent and absurd excesses”?

Lynn David
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

Well, what state was it a few years ago, Alabama or Mississippi, whose state homeland security department labelled gay groups as ones to watch out for as home-grown terrorists. He might find a favorable ear in the FBI. If this isn’t anything more than a publicity stunt for his money-grubbing newsletters.

CB
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

Quick, let’s call the FBI on Sally Kern! LOL

Donnchadh
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

The FBI investigates ordinary (but cross-state) criminals. The CIA investigates threats to the state, such as terrorism.

AdrianT
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

You would expect any competent legal advisor to know the diffeence between the FBI and the CIA, as pointed out above. So no surprise to find J Matt ‘supersize-me’ Barber can’t.

LaBarbera is making himself look more ridiculous all the time. The comparison with the airbase shootings last week must actually be a huge insult to the bereaved families.

That carnage was created by someone who, just like LaBarbera, was the most godly person imaginable.

SharonB
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

@Quo:
RE: “The gay rights movement has been guilty (at times) of violent and absurd excesses…”

Cite?

Timothy Kincaid
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

Donnchadh,

Thank you. Good catch.

CLS
November 11th, 2009 | LINK

I don’t think LaBarbera is a fool here. That implies he is just stupidly taking the “threat” seriously. He doesn’t. In fact I doubt he actually reported it. This is PR and it’s a lie. He knows he is lying but he has to stir up his funders and fake “threats” is the way to get the money flowing. It is greed combined with political opportunism but not foolishness.

As an exChristian (ex seminarian) watching these religious based groups has convinced me that they are fundamentally immoral and dishonest. There is nothing they wouldn’t lie about to achieve their goals. And since they discovered that lies work with the public (just ask Obama) they will continue to lie.

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