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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyFebruary 12th, 2010
On Tuesday, New Hampshire Representative Nancy Elliot decided that a discussion over repealing the state’s marriage equality law could be spiced up a bit by a little discussion about anal sex.
QUEERTY.COM nancy elliot new hampshire from Queerty on Vimeo.
Rep. Nancy Elliot: We heard in this hearing one of the people came to testify and they said that this is not normal. And I had to think about it a while. Y\’know, what are we talking about?
And so, I started thinking, and we\’re talking about taking the penis of one man and putting it in the rectum of another man, and wiggling it around in excrement. And I had to think, I\’m not sure, would I allow that to be done to me? All of us, if something happened to you, would you let that happen to you?
Is that normal? Is that something that we want to portray as the same as the ‘one flesh union\’ between a man and a woman? I dunno.
Um, then, I started to think, I remember when we were having the testimony, people were saying that um, it was brought up that this would rise to the schools and I\’m thinking, “No, no. No no, that won\’t happen.”
Well I heard yesterday from a mother that in the fifth grade, in Nashua, they were giving um, they were given as part of their classroom instruction, naked pictures of two men showing presentation of anal sex.
Chairman David Cote: Representative Elliot, let\’s keep our discussion directly to the bill and not…
Elliot: This is directly to the bill!
Cuz, because we have made a marriage on same sex, they are now teaching it in the public schools. They are showing our fifth graders how they can actually perform this kind of sex.
And they are condoning, they are saying, “It\’s normal and this is something that you may want to try.” That is the context of the lesson, that this is something that you, as fifth graders, may want to try.
I see it as a real problem in our society. I see it as a real affront to our citizens that their children are suspected to this.
And so I think that it is important that we revisit what we did. We made a mistake. We should repeal it.
Oh, my.
It certainly would be newsworthy if ten year-olds were being encouraged to try anal sex. But it now appears that the telephone call that Nancy Elliot was talking about receiving may have occurred at some point when she forgot to wear her tinfoil hat. (Nashua Telegraph)
Superintendent Mark Conrad said that school officials have asked all elementary school principals about the claim. Conrad said there is no evidence to substantiate Elliott\’s comment and no parents have called to complain.
“We don\’t have any information that this has occurred,” Conrad said Friday.
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Burr
February 12th, 2010
Lying for Jesus strikes again! Along with the singularly focused obsession only with what gay MEN do (and only SOME of them at that)..
And uhh.. Nancy should tell her husband (if she has one) that if he’s “wriggling it around in excrement” then he’s doing it wrong.. :P
Ditto all those who are “wriggling it around in menses.”
penguinsaur
February 12th, 2010
A simple challenge I’ve never seen the bigots answer no matter how many of them I ask:
Can you name a single example of a major gay rights supporter or group being caught in a lie, like the one this article is about for example?
I’ve yet to find one person who can point to an example of us ‘immoral’ people lying while this website and dozens more have archives going back years with at least one of the major ‘moral’ groups being caught in a lie at least once a month, often once a day or once a week.
a. mcewen
February 12th, 2010
i’m glad someone called her out. when folks like her make outrageous statements, so many people either shake their heads or laugh that no one calls out the statement for the inaccuracy that it is.
Eddie89
February 12th, 2010
Okay, I would call her bluff!
Make anal sex illegal, but allow same-gender couples to legally marry!
Kristen
February 12th, 2010
It sounds like Rep. Elliot needs to stop worrying about the bowels of gay men being full of excrement and focus her concerns a little closer to home.
MJC
February 12th, 2010
Like many, this poor lady has confused her own personal disgust (with something she seems to be spending a little too much time imagining) with morality.
Other people’s sexuality doesn’t bother me because it is not mine. And if you don’t like gay marriage, don’t get involved in one.
Edwin
February 12th, 2010
Another lying politian! What do they think the people are all fools. The only ones that are folls are the homophob’s and Holy Rollers.
GreenEyedLilo
February 12th, 2010
I wish someone had responded, “And what does it matter? Whatever you do is going to disgust someone else.” But I’m glad that someone did their research and called her on her, um, excrement.
cd
February 13th, 2010
Yet another politician who thinks their job properly involves fantasizing about the sex lives of people they don’t know or actually care about.
Jim
February 13th, 2010
Rep. Nancy Elliot is a liar!
darkmoonman
February 13th, 2010
And folks keep re-electing these idiots who, rather than do research, grab a rumor and run with it.
Gregory
February 13th, 2010
I suppose this just might be because I am in college, but a lot of my straight friends do anal as well, and it’s no big deal. When will people stop treating sex in its many, healthy forms as evil, immoral or whatnot? Sure, there are sex acts that are awful (incest, pedophilia, bestiality, et. al.), but not this one. Anal sex is not exclusively gay. Nor does it have to be dirty. No more so than vaginal sex, at least.
Richard Rush
February 13th, 2010
Nancy Elliott should read the comment by Confessor on the BTB post titled “Valentine’s Question: could you give it all up?” But Confessor’s moving story of love and devotion would likely be lost on Elliott.
Here is a person (Elliott) elected to represent all her constituents, and when confronted with the reality of loving relationships between certain human beings, all she is able to see are vivid images of the detailed mechanics of anal sex. Such a profound lack of human empathy should disqualify her from elective office.
Ben in Oakland
February 13th, 2010
Well, all Ican say is that Ms. Elliott has spent way to much time on the first page of xvideos.com while not wearing both her tin foil hat AND her glasses. Because all of those people who are enjoying getting their ecreta wiggled in seem to be women, though none of them seem to be Ms. Elliott.
hyhybt
February 13th, 2010
If nothing else, I don’t think it qualifies as “excrement” until it’s been excreted.
Regan DuCasse
February 13th, 2010
What IS it with these people?!
The public comportment of gay people doesn’t raise the ire, contempt, disgust that people like this woman thinks it SHOULD, so in a STATEHOUSE political meeting, she felt she just HAD to go THERE?!
There is NO venue too sacred or worthy of respect where a politician, or clergy member will refrain from graphic details regarding the assumed sex practices of gay people.
I’ve heard recordings of ministers in CHURCH (with children present) being just as graphic, I’ve heard Oral Roberts on national broadcasts from HIS church doing the same, and I’ve heard politicians like THIS one, and anti gay teachers as well in THEIR classrooms of 5th graders doing the same.
Apparently the stupidest irony isn’t lost on these people. These same ones who complain that gay people don’t have the proper RESTRAINT when it comes to having a sex life.
But apparently people like this state rep have none when it comes to describing it in detail in PUBLIC.
Ben in Oakland
February 13th, 2010
It creminds me of 30 years ago when I was fighting the briggs initiative. Briggs just LOVED to talk dirty. One of my favorites: “How would you like if you little boy went into a restroom and some homosexual put his penis into your son’s mouth?” This was in 1978.
cd
February 13th, 2010
But apparently people like this state rep have none when it comes to describing it in detail in PUBLIC.
I gave up on conservative “morality” when I realized that the so-called moralists were always the most prurient fantasizers and sadly willing to engage in what they claimed to be better than.
Alex H
February 13th, 2010
First off, I wish I went to that school with the pictures of men having anal sex so at least I’d have a clue when I was 15.
Second, Elliot really should do more research before claiming what is and isn’t normal.
I can see why women wouldn’t like anal sex, but men have a prostate gland that’s the joy buzzer that’s hidden deep inside the body and can only be activated through that love tunnel, which makes anal sex very pleasurable. Too bad Elliot won’t ever experience it but it kind of shatters her concept of “normal” since nature must have thought why not? Otherwise why put it in such an out of the way area that really can only be accessed one way?
Thirdly, “squirming around in excrement” maybe that’s how she does it but I’m sure many of us do not.
And speaking of which, there are some women out there who have sex when on their periods–so they don’t get pregnant–or even when they’re pregnant and there are even some who have anal sex (not for their pleasure but for their dear husbands who want a “tighter fit”), so if Elliot wants to talk disgusting, that’s disgusting.
So she really shouldn’t go there when it comes to people and what they do in their private lives.
homer
February 13th, 2010
I wish a reporter would ask Mrs. Elliott a simple question- has your husband ever wiggled his penis inside your vagina during your period? It would be interesting to hear her reaction.
Jason D
February 13th, 2010
“men have a prostate gland that’s the joy buzzer that’s hidden deep inside the body and can only be activated through that love tunnel, which makes anal sex very pleasurable. Too bad Elliot won’t ever experience it but it kind of shatters her concept of “normal†since nature must have thought why not? Otherwise why put it in such an out of the way area that really can only be accessed one way?”
Actually, you’re a little off. The penis starts right next to the prostate gland, it is activated simply by the penis rubbing against it during sexual activity.
In both anal sex and regular sex, a penis is rubbing against the prostate. In anal, it’s the partner, in regular, it’s you.
Lucrece
February 13th, 2010
Actually, Jason, your correction is incomplete.
It’s not just the vagina/penis connection, or penis/hand connection that causes pleasure; it boils down to certain nerve endings being activated by the rubbing.
Thus, women actually ALSO enjoy anal sex, they just don’t get the extra amplifier that’s prostate stimulation.
Lymis
February 14th, 2010
Good point.
The complaint is ALWAYS “the gays want to make all this public! They want to push their sex lives in our faces! They want to teach this to children!”
And it is always the homophobes who are talking in graphic detail. It isn’t gay people going to the statehouse and giving these details. WE say “please leave us alone to do what works for us.” THEY say “Penis! Excrement! Man on dog sex!” and so on.
Oddly enough, there is one point that Rep Elliot makes that is worth noting – although she doubtless didn’t make it deliberately. It is apparent that she felt she was in a venue for adults, and that there are topics she feels can be discussed openly by adults with other adults without worrying what some far-off children might think, since they aren’t there.
Which is OUR point. We’re all adults. We should be able to talk about things like our rights and relationships, and if necessary, who does what to whom, with the same adult freedom that straight people do.
But you know damn well this same woman who so freely and explicitly condemned all gay men everywhere would be Shocked! and Offended! if someone even spoke about KISSING their same-sex partner, much less matched her wiggle for wiggle.
Christopher Waldrop
February 15th, 2010
A woman can be proud and stiff
When on love intent;
But Love has pitched his mansion in
The place of excrement;
For nothing can be sole or whole
That has not been rent.
-W.B. Yeats, Crazy Jane Talks With The Bishop
Those lines came to mind because Yeats was almost certainly talking about vaginal intercourse. And Jane may have been crazy, but she obviously understood both love and biology better than the Bishop to whom she was speaking–and Elliott for that matter.
Tru Agape
February 27th, 2010
As far as I’m concerned, anal sex is nasty, disgusting, unsanitary, and degrading. And I find it intersting that the only couple that can’t perform it is a homosexual one – a female homosexual one. Anal sex has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Both hetrosexuals and homosexuals can be guilty of this. This woman needs to take her face out of her own excrement and see the anal sex problem as a universal one. This lady needs to be smacked!
Priya Lynn
February 27th, 2010
Agape, if you don’t like anal sex then don’t have it but don’t try to dictate to other people what they should or shouldn’t do with their sex lives, its none of your business.
Timothy Kincaid
February 27th, 2010
Tru Agape,
We don’t advocate for “smacking” anyone here.
Tru Agape
February 28th, 2010
sorry.
Timothy Kincaid
March 1st, 2010
no prob :)
Kinsey Report
April 12th, 2010
Nancy Kinsey ought to learn something about Human sexual Behavior. She might consult
http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Kinsey_Reports
and learn something about which she is obviously ignorant.
If she doesn’t want to engage in anal, oral, vaginal sex she could “Just Say No”. (Others may Just say Yes, Yes and Yes Again). I wouldn’t have any kind of social or sexual intercourse with this narrow minded, judgmental and ignorant person.
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