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San Diego candidate learns not to buddy up to ex-gay gadfly James Hartline

Timothy Kincaid

March 17th, 2010

hartline2It never pays to buddy up to ex-gay activist James Hartline. You’re going to get burned. Even if you agree with everything that Hartline supports, you have to be as extreme and wacky as he is or he’ll turn on you.

And San Diego City Council candidate Lorie Zapf has just found that out. Hartline is sharing some of their communications with the press. (Union-Tribune)

Hartline said he distributed the e-mail to media outlets this week because Zapf was not living up to his anti-gay standards.

zapfIt all started in 2006 when Zapf supported a candidate for City Council who endorsed the mayor who was known to be tolerant of gay people. Although she had attended church with him at Mission Valley, this was enough to lead Hartline to suspect Zapf’s anti-gay credentials. Or as Hartline tells it (in the third person):

It was because Hartline and Zapf knew each other at MVCF that Hartline began to email Zapf regarding her obviously hypocritical involvement with the campaigns of Judy Riddle, a member of the cult Mormon Church, and pro-homosexual San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders. Hartline could not understand at the time how Zapf could be involved in promoting Mormon candidates when MVCF had taught her that Mormonism is a cult. Equally perplexing for Hartline was the idea that Zapf was so involved with Jerry Sanders after the years Sanders had marched in San Diego’s pornographic gay pride parades.

Initially, Zapf attempted to manipulate Hartline in emails, telling Hartline that she was firmly in his camp on the homosexual issue. As Hartline responded with emails showing Zapf was compromising, she began to take a sinister turn, emailing Hartline’s pastors in an attempt to shut Hartline down. It appears by her responses in the recent Union Tribune article, that the sinister Zapf is once again replacing the “Aunt Bee” Lorie Zapf.

Hartline’s view of “compromising” is probably a bit different than yours. Zapf was pretty clear where she stood: (City Beat)

“I absolutely want to keep homosexuals out of public office and not be allowed to influence our schools, textbooks, altering marriage, children, and on and on”

“I like that you are trying to keep homosexuals and homosexual activists out of public office because we both know what the long term agenda is.”

“I do believe homosexuality is a sin. I have three homosexual first cousins. I love them all and would ‘be seen’ in a photo with them. I believe they all live in sin and frankly all are very unhappy people and had horrible childhoods as well.”

But hating the gay isn’t enough for Hartline. You have to be fire-breathing, take no prisoners, crazy-ass in your hating of the gay. But crazy-ass homophobia doesn’t sell with in San Diego. Yes, this is a Republican city, but it likes its Republicans to be either gay supportive or gay themselves.

So Zapf is now clarifying. She says that she didn’t mean gay people, per se, just gay activists (ya know, the gay folk who aren’t closeted, delusional, ex-gay, or like Roy Ashburn).

And she’s a victim. It was just taken out of context.

“This is what keeps good people from running for office,” she said. “Everyone’s got something. It’s going to be a little sentence plucked out, taken out of context … and then used against me to try to destroy me and my family.”

Zapf said voters should note that Hartline’s anger stems from her support of gays.

“The irony is that James Hartline, of all people, who is so rabidly anti-gay, is trying to hurt me because I’m not,” she said. “He doesn’t think I’m anti-gay enough. I’m not at all.”

Oh, I dunno, Lorie. I think you’re plenty anti-gay.

Even if you would ‘be seen’ in a photo with me.



March 17th, 2010 | LINK


Lorie Zapf has not 1, not 2 but 3 gay 1st cousins! Hmmm, so does she STILL think that it’s a “choice” to be gay?

Anyway, I’m sure that they’re family is a whole lot closer now that those 3 gay cousins know how their cousin, Lorie Zapf, feels about them.

Perhaps they were “in the closet” and now they’ve been outed!

March 17th, 2010 | LINK

Well what did you expect Ms. Zapf? When you play with fire you get burned.

By the way, while its understandable that you want to state your belief that your gay cousins are living in sin, your remarks about their alleged unhappiness and horrible childhoods constitute gossip. Now, perhaps you’d like to explain to your cousins how spreading gossip about them and their lives to cater to your supporters is the act of a loving family member? Perhaps you can convince them that being willing to be in a photo with them somehow makes up for your obvious dislike and disapproval of them.

March 17th, 2010 | LINK

Also, did Ms. Zapf ever stop to think that her 3 gay cousins “unhappiness” and “horrible” childhoods were caused by her and her family’s anti-gay bigotry?

March 18th, 2010 | LINK

I’ll have to let my Mormon friends know what Mr. Hartline feels about them.

“…when MVCF had taught her that Mormonism is a cult.”

(I assume MVCF is Mission Valley Christian Fellowship?)

After all the hard work (and money) the Mormons did for Proposition 8 and this is the gratitude they get?

Strange bedfellows indeed.

March 18th, 2010 | LINK

“Be in a picture with them”??? Well, to paraphrase The Church Lady, “isn’t that special”!

Paul in Canada
March 18th, 2010 | LINK

I love it when the extreme right claw each other over the edge and into the abyss. Curiously entertaining, in a dark, sadistic sort of way…. ‘-)

May 28th, 2010 | LINK

Zapf is going down

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