A multi-part video interview series with Michael Bussee, co-founder of Exodus International turned critic.
May 11th, 2010
Modern day Exodus and president Alan Chambers provide a near non-stop supply of illogical and bizarre statements that keep watchdog sites like Truth Wins Out, Ex-Gay Watch, and BoxTurtleBulletin busy documenting and analyzing them. My personal favorite is Alan’s claim that he might never have come to Jesus and become straight if gay marriage had been available to him when he was young and gay.
I thought I’d ask Michael Bussee what he thought of Alan’s statement.
Hat tip to Ex-Gay Watch for capturing video of Alan’s appearance at the Prop 8 rally.
(transcript below the jump)
I’m Michael Bussee, I’m one of the original co-founders of Exodus International. I left the program in 1979 and have since reconciled my spirituality and my sexuality and now I’m a vocal critic of reparative therapy programs and of Exodus International.
[title: “Inequality Under The Law Is OK As Long As It Persuades People To Go Ex-Gay”]
[voice of interviewer:] Alan Chambers has often says that if gay marriage had been legal when he was experimenting with being gay that he may never have been saved and found his path to Exodus as a sort of justification for keeping gay marriage illegal, what do you think of that?
[switches to segment of live simulcast political rally held by CA Prop 8 campaign on September 25, 2008]
[rally host:] 40 days, we have 40 days and that’s it. Why is same sex marriage a bad thing?
[Alan Chambers speaking at rally via video conference:] Well for me same sex marriage would have only hindered my ability to come to the Lord, it would have only put one more obstacle along the way that wasn’t there at the time and I’m so grateful back in 1990 and 1991 that wasn’t something that stood in my way in coming to Christ in the way he had me come to him. If that had been an option for me I certainly would have chosen it would have been a more difficult road for me and I think that’s the truth for young people like me who don’t need this obstacle in their way.
[switches back to Michael Bussee’s sitting room]
[voice of interviewer:] What do you think of that?
I think it’s sad that he never had the experience of being gay and married to a partner of his choice. How wonderful it is to think that he may not have gotten involved in Exodus and may have had a different life path if it had been legal.
[voice of interviewer:] But as a justification for denying civil rights?
[Michael interrupting:] Oh as a justification for denying civil rights?… Absurd… Outrageous.
He’s talking out both sides of his mouth. On one hand he says that he doesn’t think that homosexuality should be illegal or criminalized in any way but it’s ok if we don’t have equal rights. So inequality under the law is ok with him as long as it persuades people to go exgay?
I never heard that quote before, I’m interested that he would say that.
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