NOM claims to be separate from the Facebook page they tout as their own

Timothy Kincaid

July 15th, 2010

The public relations firm for the National Organization for Marriage has sent us a statement about the Protect Marriage: One Man One Woman facebook page:

“The Huffington Post on Wednesday falsely attributed statements to the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) about discrimination faced by gays and lesbians. The statements were apparently posted by an unnamed “administrator” of the “Protect Marriage: 1 Man 1 Woman” Facebook account. Huffington Post falsely claims that this is NOM’s Facebook page. The Facebook account on which these statements were reportedly made is not NOM’s Facebook page and neither NOM nor anyone representing NOM made these statements. The Facebook account in question is operated by a private party and NOM does not control what is allowed to be posted on the account, a fact that could have been easily known to Huffington Post had they reached out to NOM to verify the report.”

Because BTB was referenced in the piece, they wanted to be sure that we know that NOM is not responsible for the false, hostile, and hate-filled statements being made by the administrators of the site.

I don’t buy it.

Not only has Jeremy at fully documented that Louis Marinelli and his organization/website have become integrated into NOM’s structure, but NOM is touting the site as their own. From Twitter:

And what do you see when you get there?

So this is “not NOM’s Facebook page”? Really?

Now, I understand the distinction between running a site and just linking to others who may share similar goals but different perspectives. In fact, Box Turtle Bulletin has a whole blogroll of sites we offer for those who are looking for additional coverage of issues which we discuss. But we don’t put them under our heading, let them use our Logo, or utilize their site to collect names for the “BTB Team.”

And let’s take a little look at the language on NOM’s Big Bus of Animus:

Gee, it certainly looks to me like the National Organization for Marriage has adopted the phrase “One Man, One Woman” as their own. And who is driving that bus? Louis Marinelli, who is the “owner” of the facebook page that NOM is simultaneously touting and denying.

And finally, if “neither NOM nor anyone representing NOM made these statements”, then maybe you should tell him that. Earlier today, James Preece, writing as an administrator, had this to say about the comments which were quoted in the Huffington Post:

Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman I’m not making a retraction: Through out history homosexuals have never faced persecution at the level Jews, Christians, and Blacks have. For the homosexual population, their only focus is WWII.

Jaimi, when you work in the area I and others of NOM and Protect Marriage, you will hear a lot of thing from the homosexual activist…

So, no, I don’t believe that NOM has any right to complain that anyone might have confused the two organizations. In fact, they have so commingled their image, their staff, and their slogans that they have for all practical purposes become one entity.

If NOM doesn’t believe or support the statements made by the facebook page administrators, then they need to publicly denounce them and pull their logo from the site. Otherwise, claims such as the one made by NOM’s PR firm are not worth the digital space they occupy.

Jim Burroway

July 15th, 2010

By the way, Timothy Kincaid has nothing to do with Box Turtle Bulletin. Nope. Nothing at all. It’s true. I swear!


July 15th, 2010

I heard Jim Burroway wasn’t really affiliated with BTB and that he’s just the bus driver. (wink)

a. mcewen

July 15th, 2010

Hey guys,

I was the writer of the Huffington Post article and I want to say thank you for the work you did on this. I put up a link to this post today in my answer back. I updated the Huffington Post piece and created a new post on my blog to show it.


July 15th, 2010

Great reporting!

I just want to say: I love you, BTB. You are especially well-written and edited. Your writing is marked by sincerity and integrity. You are not shrill or bitchy. There is no fluff to wade through. You truly set the standard for serious, in depth blogging on serious and important LGBT issues. I mean, you really are able to discern what’s important, zero in on it, and give it the attention it deserves (your stories on Uganda are just one example) — I really appreciate that.

I appreciate also the fact that your ads don’t get in my face, the pages load quickly, the graphic design is pleasing and effective, and the information design and navigability is excellent.

Thank you, BTB, for what you do, and for making the world a better place.

(By the way, I’m just a random reader, not one of the bloggers’ mothers!)


July 15th, 2010

If you are interested, I have conversations that Preece and his hatemongers have. Ones where he claims to be God’s messenger, and lives without sins. That gays are all pedophiles. I can send them to you.

Wade MacMorrighan

July 16th, 2010

Hey, does Louis even have the proper license to DRIVE NOM’s hatemobile? Just thought I’d ask… If I were a cop, I totally pull them over “just to check”. MUWAHAHAHA!!! Not only (so far as I recall) do you need to pass a written and driving test, but you must clock in so many hours of experience before driving an actual bus.


July 18th, 2010

Wow looked through the facebook link and those comments are downright scary. Actually saw one commenter touting the universally discredited book The Pink Swastika, what is wrong with these people?


July 28th, 2010

If a fan page cannot confirm it’s affiliation to a website it is removed by facebook…. Happens everyday….

Any facebook user with a brain knows these people are lying about non-affiliation with that wacko group….

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