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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyAugust 26th, 2010
Peter LaBarbera? The anti-gay who obsessively photographs gay sex (because he’s so against it), and who spreads terrible lies about gays molesting children? He has a new definition of what it means to “love” gays in a Christian way:
Send them to Hell.
Yesterday Pete posted a video from the genuinely grotesque Molotov Mitchell. See, Molly has gay friends. And he considers it his duty to tell them they’re going to hell. A number of conservative Christians think this way, and it’s actually not that hard to understand. If you believe a friend is in danger of eternal damnation, wouldn’t you want to save him from that fate? Peter calls Molly’s attitude, “loving a homosexual friend enough to tell him the truth.”
But there’s a problem.
Molly also believes we should put practicing gays to death. In this video he claims it’s the only Christian thing to do. He explicitly says “Ugandans are right” to impose a death penalty on gays. Really, he does. And according to conservative Christian theology, you know what happens to those who die without repenting their “sins” or accepting the conservative version of Jesus?
They go to Hell.
By the way, Molly has a long history of lying about the Uganda bill, trying to quell opposition by misrepresenting what bill says. That makes him an active advocate of a homosexual death penalty.
This is the man Peter LaBarbera lauds as sharing “Biblical love.” A love for his gay friends so great he wants to see them dead and in Hell.
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Timothy Kincaid
August 26th, 2010
It’s worth noting that Molly’s “gay friends” consist of some guy who he knew through a theater crowd. Not exactly what you or I would call a “friend”.
L. Junius Brutus
August 26th, 2010
Hell, the misrepresentation has spread to AFP: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iyxmjNLH6o69kaFrcez0tmc7V7cA
“In Uganda, a drastic anti-gay bill has been met with criticism from Western states and rights group, notably for imposing the death penalty for “aggravated homosexuality” in cases of rape of a minor by a person of the same sex, or where one partner has HIV.”
justsearching
August 26th, 2010
I can’t stand this self-designated “freedom philosopher” (whatever the hell that means in this context). It’s odd in the video that in one moment he can do be a condescending “OMG i like cock, am i like going to hell?” impersonation of this supposed “friend” and thirty seconds later act as if this individual and he had an intimate, emotional moment together as they both contemplated the fact that the gay guy was going burn in hell. I think the story is scripted bullshit.
justsearching
August 26th, 2010
And Tim, you’re right, when one is such a brazen dick as this guy, acquaintances will have to do if you want be able to count any friends.
KZ
August 26th, 2010
I’m betting the first time Mitchell told a homosexual s/he is going to hell, s/he just laughed in his face.
Hasselback supporting marriage equality, Coulter speaking at a GOProud event, Glenn Beck shrugging his shoulders at the Prop 8 decision… it’ll be interesting watching LaBarbera and the rest of the virulently anti-gay crowd become even more ‘wackadoodle-ish.’
Scott
August 26th, 2010
Oddly I was out in front of a bar a few weeks ago and somebody passing told me (in all seriousness) “you know you’re going to hell right”?
I just said “yep, see you there”.
He didn’t quite know what to say.
Rev Ray neal
August 27th, 2010
These extreme fundamentalist Christians actually do believe what they say. It’s been so ingrained into them by others that they fail to think about what they are saying or how it sounds to others. Actually when one really reads what Jesus is recorded as saying this kind of crap isn’t defensible. Most of Jesus’ warnings were for the fundamentalist Bible interpreters of his day…and our modern day Bible fundamentalists sound an awful lot like the ancient Sadducees, Pharisees, Levites, and Priests that Jesus had to contend with. Or doesn’t anyone else notice this?
Mike
August 27th, 2010
I noticed he’s now taken to wearing long sleeve shirts in his videos to hide his tattoos, which will result in Mollsy burning hell (well, at least according to his bible).
Mihangel apYrs
August 27th, 2010
I often wonder how these people avoid having their noses smeared across their faces. Or are they only loudmouthed in the safety of a studio?
L. Junius Brutus
August 27th, 2010
Most gay people also don’t know how to argue with fundamentalists. They have “answers” for the most popular objections to their conduct. For example, why they do not oppose eating shellfish. That’s because the “ceremonial” law was repealed.
It is far better to talk about divorce. When asked why they exhibit such extreme animosity toward homosexuality, while (almost) none toward divorce, they can only muster a weak: “Well, that’s because divorced people aren’t forming lobbies to influence public policy and demand acceptance.” To which you will say: “That is because divorce *is* accepted, and divorced people aren’t targeted, assaulted and/or murdered, discriminated against and disadvantaged the way gay people are. Moreover, is the ferocity of your resistance to ‘sin’ really determined by the actions of the ‘sinful’?” This exposes them as hypocrites, because they can’t rely on the intellectual consistency that remain intact with the shellfish-argument.
Maurice Lacunza
August 27th, 2010
I watched that dispicable clip by Ilumanati Pictures. He said that it is God’s Word that gays be put to death. He challenged the viewer to show him in God’s Word if he was wrong. Well, I looked; and this is what I found:
First, I am quoting from gotquestions.org:
“The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.”
Second, from the man Jesus who is the Christian’s God:
Matthew 22:37–40 (NIV)
37 Jesus replied: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.â€
Timothy Kincaid
August 27th, 2010
“It is far better to talk about divorce.”
Perhaps, perhaps not. Some will tell you, “oh i do oppose divorce”. A better choice might be to ask them about usury.
The Bible – old and new testaments – condemns usury in the harshest terms. It even defines usury as being as little as 1% interest. Evil evil evil. No excuses, go-to-hell kinda sin.
Yet I don’t know a social conservative with neither a credit card, car loan, nor mortgage.
L. Junius Brutus
August 27th, 2010
“Perhaps, perhaps not. Some will tell you, “oh i do oppose divorceâ€.”
Well, then it is fair to ask why they aren’t doing anything to make divorce illegal, or why their church doesn’t bar people who have been divorced from membership, or why they don’t seek to “reform” divorcees by getting them back to their original partners, or why they aren’t as vocal about divorce, or why they don’t do a host of other things that they do to gay people. Of course, the fact that they claim that homosexuality and divorce are both “sins” shows how hypocritical and intellectually inconsistent they are in treating these two cases so differently, even though MANY MORE people are divorced.
“A better choice might be to ask them about usury.”
Interesting. I’ll try that some time.
Maurice Lacunza
August 27th, 2010
Don’t forget that trimmed beards, eating shellfish and having tattoos are also sins punishable by death or dismemberment. These Christians aren’t really worried about the LAW; they are justifying their bigotry.
steven
August 28th, 2010
Typical of this country. Does any one remember Idi Amin and ‘his’ genocide.
Priya Lynn
August 28th, 2010
Junius said “They have “answers†for the most popular objections to their conduct. For example, why they do not oppose eating shellfish. That’s because the “ceremonial†law was repealed.”.
Then I ask them where in the bible it sasy the “ceremonial law was repealed. Then they try and go into an abstract argument about how even though it doesn’t say it was repealed it actually was. That’s when I hit them up with Jesus saying “Its easier for heaven and earth to pass than for one jot or tittle of the law to fail. At that point they have no response other than to rather childishly claim the bible doesn’t mean what it says.
Mykelb
August 29th, 2010
I tell people like Molly to keep their religiously based bias to themselves and that they are no friend of mine. I emphatically refute their hogwash with the backup of the AMA, APA, and science.
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