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  1. Timothy (TRiG)
    April 14, 2011

    There’s been a gay couple on The Archers (the longest-running soap in the world) for a few years now.

    TRiG.

  2. JCF
    April 14, 2011

    A sad day.

    I watched AMC in the early 80s (as an undergrad).

    I left soaps behind then . . . only to fall headlong for “Otalia” (shipper name for Olivia&Natalia) on Guiding Light in 2008-9. And then it got cancelled. :-(

    Even if you’re not a fan of the genre, I think one has to admit that, merely as a training ground for actors, we’re losing a lot. Especially when all we’re getting for it, are two more Reality programs (Blech!).

  3. Scott L.
    April 14, 2011

    Mr. Kincaid, until, and ONLY until you’ve been in front of a camera and tried to deliver lines, hit your mark and create a believable character, while dealing with a new script every day and constant rewrites, you should keep your snarky comments to yourself! After all, you wouldn’t appreciate people making snide remarks about your writing abilities based on the fact that all you’ve published is a blog, now would you?

    I, and every other actor, get really tired of people who have no idea what this business is like deriding us! You think it’s so easy give it a shot!

  4. johnathan
    April 14, 2011

    You know, it’s funny. I never watched soaps, before or since the three months after my severe bout with epileptic seizures. During those three months, I was homebound — doctor’s orders — and bored during the daytime. The one thing that got me through the day (before Jerry Springer and the other talk shows of “high moral character”): Young and the Restless. Why? After watching for three or four episodes, I became hooked on wanting to know more and more of the storyline.

    The sad thing, is the writers get the audience hooked by only presenting two or three minutes of each family/groups situation per episode. You are “forced” to keep on coming back, or else. :-) After those three months, I quickly forgot and lost interest. However, I understand and appreciate the interest for the devout soap opera fans. As for AMC — it is extremely commendable to have keep current with modern society.

  5. Shannon
    April 15, 2011

    I don’t care about AMC. It is OLTL that I will miss and for the record they have had several gay story arcs over the years, usually minor characters until recently. In 1995 they had a story of a young gay boy with AIDS outsted by his father.

  6. Mihangel apYrs
    April 15, 2011

    Scott L
    performers of any medium set themselves up for criticism as the price of the pleasure of their exposure. You choose to be in the public eye where your job is to entertain – do it well and there’s celebrity, do it badly and you can still end up making a living from it.

    If you don’t want to be judges on your performance get a job where you’re not (though to be fair EVERY job has appraisals, just not public ones!)

  7. Scott L.
    April 15, 2011

    Mihangel,

    That’s a cheap and easy way for people to justify being catty and you know it. Honest criticism I’m fine with, jabs meant to hurt just for the pleasure of demeaning others, not so much.

  8. Timothy Kincaid
    April 15, 2011

    Scott L,

    Silly, silly boy. How could you possibly think that my criticism of Lucci’s acting abilities are “jabs meant to hurt just for the pleasure of demeaning others”?

    I think she’s the best thing on the show.

    Watching Susan Lucci as Erica Kane is great fun. She’s so sincere, she tries so hard, and she’s so colossally bad that you find yourself rooting for her. Maybe if Lucci herself were arrogant or full of how wonderful of an actor she is, it would be different. But the combination of ‘really nice person’ playing ‘really bad person’ and doing it poorly is somehow delightful. And I don’t think that American would have put up with Erica Kane for 40 years if Lucci’s niceness wasn’t right under the surface.

    (I watched Kane in some other made for TV movie and it just didn’t translate. Sadly, it wasn’t delightful, just bad acting.)

    But I don’t think this is about me criticizing Lucci. I think you’re just projecting your own experiences here. You’re upset at people criticizing you.

    To which I have to say: you need thicker skin if you want to be in that business. Entertainment isn’t known for “honest criticism”, you know. And if you can’t stand someone being snarky about one of your performances, then you need to keep your audience limited to Mom and Dad.

    And as for people making snide remarks about my writing abilities… read the comments. You’re not exactly the first to be less than pleased with something I’ve written.

    So let me give you some advice: take it in stride.

    In life, people aren’t going to appreciate your efforts, only your results. You can spend hours preparing and rehearsing (or researching and writing) and put out your best effort only to have someone see only the flaws.

    But we have to recognize that when you act or I write, we are asking something of others: their time. We want them to sit there and watch (or read) what we have prepared – no, not just that – to stop whatever else they are doing in their busy life to watch and read and be impacted by what we have prepared.

    That’s a lot to ask.

    And if we are wasting their time, if we fail to deliver, then we hardly have any right to complain if they say so.

    It doesn’t matter how hard it might be to deliver lines, hit your mark and create a believable character, while dealing with a new script every day and constant rewrites. Our work doesn’t entitle us to their time.

  9. Regan DuCasse
    April 15, 2011

    Oh well. My husband will have one less soap to watch that he’s watched faithfully for over 25 years!
    And one of my actor friends who just started on that show, will have to do something else.
    Wow.
    I thought it was such a huge deal they moved to Los Angeles.

    In short order now no show at all. Hollywood is KILLING productions of scripted shows like Raid on roaches.

  10. Scott L.
    April 15, 2011

    Let’s see, Timothy, I’ve been at it for over forty years, so my skin is pretty thick when it comes to the business, just don’t care for outsiders thinking they know all about what goes in a performance even thought they’ve never been on stage or in front of a camera.

    I’ve been ridiculed, had death threats, called a variety of names, and that’s on a good day, so pardon me if I think you’re a tad smug and self-satisfied.

    Acting is the one profession where you can be not hired, or fired, for being to short, too tall, too thin, too fat, too ugly, not ugly enough, too pretty, not pretty enough, all perfectly legal and legitimate.

    Yes, I’ve criticized your mistakes, but I’ve never demeaned you or belittled your abilities.

    And, would you like your abilities judged on one piece? Remember this, with screen or television, there’s also a director, editor and producers between you and the actor’s actual performance.

    again, please don’t make sweeping judgments about a profession where you are ignorant about the inner workings of.

  11. Timothy Kincaid
    April 15, 2011

    Scott,

    kindly point out my “sweeping judgments about a profession”

  12. Paul J. Stein
    April 15, 2011

    Watching “Erica Kane” camp it up is like watching a unlimited budget dragshow without the dreadful make up. It’s been fun Miss Lucci!

  13. Scott L.
    April 15, 2011

    Timothy,

    My apologies for being unclear. I meant the way you characterized Susan Lucci’s acting abilities, which by belittling shows a profound ignorance of the acting profession and how television is produced.

    By the way, would YOU please point out where I have made PERSONAL attacks either on you or any of the posters here?

  14. Timothy Kincaid
    April 15, 2011

    I’ve not said that you made personal attacks. Surely not.

    And it’s time to let our squabble come to an end. Perhaps, out of my profound ignorance of the acting profession and how television is produced I’ve unfairly judged Ms Lucci.

    So why don’t we simply agree that although Susan Lucci’s 40 year stint on All My Children has not demonstrated any discernible acting ability so far, in future roles she may shine with ferocity that matches Streep, Hepburn, Leigh, Taylor or Foster.

    In the meanwhile, let’s just be appreciative the amusement and joy she’s brought to millions and the care and consideration she’s given to our community.

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