Giuliani: GOP Should Stay Out of Marriage

Jim Burroway

July 17th, 2011

Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who himself thinks that marriage equality is “wrong,” nevertheless thinks the GOP should stay out of marriage:

I think the Republican Party would be well advised to get the heck out of people’s bedrooms and let these things get decided by states. We’d be a much more successful political party if we stuck to our economic, conservative roots. I think it’s wrong, but there are other things that I think are wrong that get decided by democratic vote. I see more harm, however, by dwelling so much on this subject of gays and lesbians and whether it’s right or wrong in politics.”

By the way, Giuliani is still not gonna preside over the marriage of his gay friends who opened their home to him when he split from his second wife. In gratitude for the gay couple’s hospitality, Giuliani had earlier promised them he would do so if marriage equality were to become legal in New York.

Update 7/18: There had been a video accompanying this post, but I removed it since it doesn’t contain the quote. I’m not sure what happened between the time I first saw the video and posted it and this morning when I learned that it didn’t apply. Sorry for the confusion


July 17th, 2011

He’s a douchebag either way. Talk about Mitt Romney levels of duplicity.


July 17th, 2011

He still thinks he has a shot at the Republican nomination for the Presidency. And he’s dreaming.


July 18th, 2011

I certainly wish that the GOP would take Mr. Giuliani’s comments to heart.

However, if they appear to do so, can we trust them? So many legislators were elected in 2010 because they espoused a popular economic view, but as soon as they were elected, they started focusing on so-called social issues. No jobs bills, no plan to help the economy. Instead, what we got was bill after bill to restrict abortion, keep marriage away from the homos, turn this country into a christianist theocracy.


July 18th, 2011

I agree with Rudy. The gay agenda should let individuals decide if they would like to pursue a non-gay life.


July 18th, 2011

Kelly, that cuts both ways. The anti-gay crowd should allow gay people the right to live as well.

And while you’re agreeing with Giuliani bear in mind that he once promised a gay couple that, if same-sex marriage were legalized in New York, he’d perform their marriage ceremony. Even though he won’t return their phone calls, are you really agreeing with him that same-sex couples can be married?

Richard Rush

July 18th, 2011

Kelly, you said, “The gay agenda should let individuals decide if they would like to pursue a non-gay life.”

The thing you conveniently omitted is that those individual “decisions” are made under the duress of being preceded by the relentless crusade of sex/sin-obsessed Christians to convince gays that they must be ashamed, pursue attempts to pray the gay away, and/or live lonely loveless lives in order to avoid social ostracism and eternal hellfire.


July 18th, 2011

Does he advocate removing federal rights to all married couples, and “let these things get decided by states”? I doubt it.

Timothy Kincaid

July 18th, 2011

The gay agenda should let individuals decide if they would like to pursue a non-gay life.

I’m unfamiliar with this sentient being called “the gay agenda” which allows or blocks the decisions of individuals.
(actually, that’s a rather amusing illustration of what happens when anti-gay activists use the strictly required language of “agenda” instead of acknowledging that gay people are people)

But as for us at BTB, we always favor allowing individuals to live as they choose. You’ll notice that we never oppose ex-gay individuals, only the dishonesty of leaders, groups, and counselors who make promises they cannot keep.

Ben In Oakland

July 18th, 2011

gain, Kelly, are you going to tell us hwom you work for?

Here’s a blockage I would support. no more posting for kelly in any aqrticle under any name unless she tells us whom she is working for, and swwears on the Holy blood of jesus that it is true.


July 18th, 2011

Timothy, c’mon, you know what I mean.

Ben, hate to tell you, I don’t work for anyone.

Jim Burroway

July 18th, 2011

“Kelly”, whoever he or she is, is now on moderation for multiple abuses to our comments policy. Furthermore, “Kelly” provides a fake email address with his/her comments, which indicates that he/she wishes not to be held accountable for his/her actions.

If “Kelly” wishes to post comments which comply with our comments policy — regardless of whether her comments agree or disagree with the posts or with others — we will release those comments from the moderatio queue. Trolling behavior however is not allowed.

Furthermore, by his/her own admission, he/she was also been banned from other web sites for engaging in similar actions and has actively tried various tactics to work around those bans. Attempts to do so here will not be tolerated, and will result in reporting his/her i.p. address to his/her internet service provider for harassment.

Timothy Kincaid

July 18th, 2011


If you don’t want me to mock when your deliberate pattern of anti-gay catch phrases begin to sound ridiculous, don’t use them.

The problem with that, of course, is that there is no real-world equivalent to “the gay agenda”. Because that phrase stands for a concept that doesn’t exist.

Steve in Colorado

July 20th, 2011

Giuliani is a publicity whore, a hypocrite, and the consummate politician. His one pseudo claim to fame is that he happened to be the mayor of New York during the 911 tragedy. He put on a good show for the TV cameras then and was elevated to the status of some sort of hero. I never understood why. He has milked that one phase in his life for all it is worth. One only needs to look at his morally bankrupt personal life to realize that he is the ultimate in hypocrisy when it comes to spouting off about what is moral and what isn’t. I wish he would just wither and go away.

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