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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyOctober 6th, 2011
Well, for starters, I’d say when you’re this guy, given his audience. He’s absolutely right: context is everything.
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Timothy (TRiG)
October 6th, 2011
I agree with what he says, but I agree that “homosexual” has unfortunate connotations.
TRiG.
Donny D.
October 6th, 2011
I’m trying to figure out how “Hells Anals” can not be obnoxious and offensive to a great many people?
Timothy Kincaid
October 6th, 2011
Donny,
If you were hanging with some gay friends (ok, at least my gay friends) and making up fake biker names, you know someone would say it. You’d probably laugh.
For me, it’s a matter of whether you are part of the community. And while Decker is straight, he’s part of the community.
It’s kinda like if some phobe mocked gay people who support the 2nd amendment and said, “oooh, what are they, the Pink Pistols?” that would be offensive. But it wasn’t offensive when the gay group selected Pink Pistols as their name.
And as for obnoxious and offensive names… you don’t want to by at LA’s Gym Bar on Tuesdays when the dodgeball league gets there. Let’s just say that Bossy Bottoms is one of the nicer team names displayed.
ed decker
October 7th, 2011
Timothy, when you said i was “part of the gay community” I nearly cried. The most awesome thing I’ve heard since this whole craziness began. THANK YOU
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MattNYC
October 7th, 2011
Ed,
I have yet to read the original column, but I really enjoyed your response column and would be offended if you DID apologize ;) Actually, this would be the ONE situation where that moronic non-apology that bigots like to use (“I’m sorry if anyone was offended”) might actually apply.
I find GLAAD to be a nearly useless organization and have a hard time believing they still exist. I’ll readily admit that there are many in the community–some with pretty good reasons–who have no sense of humor.
There are some vile comedians who justify their routines by saying they are “equal opportunity” offenders. That doesn’t excuse jokes that humiliate others. But jokes about group names and other silly things like this should be recognized for the humor they mean to be.
Darina
October 7th, 2011
That’s exactly the point, TRiG: You have allowed your enemies to appropriate the word “homosexual” in your language.
It’s an international word, and it’s not considered offensive in my language. I don’t know if anybody other than native speakers of English (and especially Americans) finds it offensive.
Timothy (TRiG)
October 7th, 2011
I think the word has unfortunate connotations. Note the comments on that post, which indicate that I’m not alone in that feeling: See relevant articles at Conservative churches welcome homosexuals and Gay: From Happy to Homosexual.
However, I agree that a lot depends on context, and in this context, I’m perfectly happy with the language used, whether that be fairly neutral words like homosexual, or strong insults. In this context, they’re fine. No problem.
As for GLAAD: it’s a bit like the Green Party. I thoroughly approve of them in theory. In practice, I’m not so sure.
TRiG.
San Diego Rob
October 8th, 2011
Please tell me your talking about all those ass-holes who keep turning even when they have a red light and I’m stuck sitting there with my legal green light. And you know wheat, if I hit them in my truck it would be considered my fault since they have the right away on a red light. You know, we should just abolish the yellow light, no ones pays attention to it. They just keep going till they feel it is my turn.
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