NH is voting on marriage reversal

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

Unfortunately, I am not receiving the feed in a way that makes any intelligible understanding of the process possible. Adding to the difficulty, the New Hampshire legislature seems to vote on amendment numbers and on items on “page 246” which is fine for those voting but gives little information to us out here in the blogosphere.

So I cannot give any form of liveblog. Nor have i found anyone doing so.

torrentprime

March 21st, 2012

I’m following NH Families twitter. About as much play-by-play as I have time for @work. :)

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

thanks torrentprime

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

amendment 1288 was just rejected. i’m not sure, but it sounded like that was the late amendment that would have put the matter to non-binding referendum.

is that right?

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

btw, official live audio stream is here.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

It seems – if I follow the tweeting correctly – that Bate’s “compromise” amendment (civil unions and a referendum) failed to get enough votes to pass.

This returns the vote to a hard line position – one that may not have much support.

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

so it looks like amendment 1288 was indeed the Bates amendment which would have put a rollback to civil union to a non-binding referendum.

now a motion to table the bill is being considered.

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

i recommend the twitter feed from the first post. they just posted the vote tally on the motion to table a few seconds before i heard it over the live audio feed!

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

Now the House is discussing whether to ban left-handed marriage. Yes, it’s ridiculous. Yes it make an important point.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

left handed marriage is safe. whew.

the legislature seems to want to vote on the issue and seems not to want to consider amendments

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

palerobber, I think that we are reaching the same conclusions… it’s all a bit confusing.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

I think it’s worth noting that there are 350 members voting today. 50 are absent.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

The total legislators voting is relevant both for this vote and for a veto override.

To override Lynch’s veto, opponents of equality will need to get 2/3 of those present, a lower burden than a 2/3 of the House requirement.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

Newsflash to wingnuts:

if you go ranting about incest and bestiality and polygamy, you sound like hate-filled extremists.

Oh, on second thought, here’s a mic, Rep. Bates, and let me turn up the volume.

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

Interestingly, the debate appears to be mostly between Republicans. I don’t know if this was an intentional move on our part, but I think it is wise.

It removes the partisan divide issue and takes away the “liberal Democrat agenda to impose blah blah blah” crap and makes it a matter of “what do you really believe: rhetoric or principles?”

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

Now they are voting whether to reconsider the amendment that failed earlier.

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

did this bill just fail?

Timothy Kincaid

March 21st, 2012

And yet again the legislature indicated that it doesn’t want the amendment and doesn’t even want to talk about the amendment anymore.

palerobber

March 21st, 2012

great speech now on the GOP reclaiming its history as leaders on civil rights.

Matt

March 21st, 2012

According to Towleroad, the bill failed, 211-116.

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/03/nhvote.html

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