David Koch endorses marriage equality

Timothy Kincaid

September 1st, 2012

From Fox News

Billionaire businessman David Koch has helped direct millions to Republican candidates but he disagrees with the party on gay marriage.

“I believe in gay marriage,” the 72-year-old Koch told Politico. He was in Tampa as a New York delegate and to attend an event held by Americans for Prosperity — the political advocacy group he helps fund and lead.

And that could make things interesting. When a billionaire speaks, politicians listen.


September 1st, 2012

He has stated this position a number of times. Causes a number of my more extreme liberal friends to freak out.

Ben in Oakland

September 1st, 2012

It only matters only if he is willing to withhold money from those who attack us


September 1st, 2012

Yeah, I don’t think his views on gay marriage effect who he gives money to.


September 1st, 2012

By the people he gives money to it doesn’t seem to matter that much to him.

David Roberts

September 2nd, 2012

“It only matters only if he is willing to withhold money from those who attack us”

Exactly. As long as his money goes to fund those who are against marriage equality, these personal views only serve to make him a hypocrite.

Libertarianism is most often expressed in government through the right, i.e. GOP.


September 2nd, 2012

David Koch’s support for same-sex marriage isn’t going to translate into any real support. His money will go to elect politicians who will do as they’re told and taxes and subsidies for business — that is, make more money for him.


September 2nd, 2012

if he really cared, he’d have his unwitting followers believe that embracing same-sex marriage would save the universe.


September 2nd, 2012

Timothy, I agree that politicians listen when billionaires speak, but only when said billionaires threaten to withhold money from their reelection coffers. I sincerely doubt that either of the Koch brothers will ever abandon the Republican party over their anti-gay views.

If you take a look at what happened in New York, where wealthy businessmen DID threaten to withhold money if the Republicans that they backed didn’t pass same-sexed marriage, they did stop, listen, and ultimately (at least a few) voted to approve it. That’s not a scenario that’s likely to ever happen with David Koch.

David Waite

September 2nd, 2012

I call “hypocrisy!” on anyone who claims to be a “friend” of anyone whom they then label with a pejorative and totally phony, made-up political or sexual curse-label. I would be more blunt than merely charging hypocrisy face to face, but BTB is a place which accomodates civil discourse and disagreement; a scarce internet value which I treasure.

“Extreme liberal” is a pejorative label. It was deliberately created as a pejorative label to offend liberals, by denying (as it does) liberals’ claims to reject all extremes. An extreme anything is by definition illiberal. Calling someone an extreme liberal is as intentionally offensive as using the terms “wingnut” and “moonbat.” Only two kinds of people use the term “extreme liberal.” They are either trying to insult or are ignorant of the oxymoronic nature of their labelling.

On David Koch’s “stating his position” Ben in Oakland, Ryan, Lord Byron and Hunter all have it exactly correct. Koch says he supports equality, but Koch’s MONEY supports bigotry because David Koch is a lying manipulator who hopes to fool ignorant people who don’t examine his actual record.

Koch also knows his lie on this issue can be and is used by both the ignorant and the manipulative to outrage and divide their “friends.” It isn’t a new tactic, and it wasn’t invented by David Koch; the Romans codified it with “divide and conquer.”


September 2nd, 2012

Money is also speech, so i would say that Mr. Koch speeks with forked-tongue [as all Republicans do right before elections]


September 2nd, 2012

He may believe in gay marriage but does he care about gay people? Probably not more than he cares about money.

Mark F.

September 2nd, 2012

“Exactly. As long as his money goes to fund those who are against marriage equality, these personal views only serve to make him a hypocrite.”

So pro-equality Democrats who supported Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Obama (in 2008) were hypocrites? Glad to clear that up.

David Roberts

September 2nd, 2012

So pro-equality Democrats who supported Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Obama (in 2008) were hypocrites? Glad to clear that up.

If during those elections there were viable pro-gay candidates who were working for marriage equality and could have been chosen as an alternative, then you bet.

David Koch spends millions and millions of dollars on the most extreme, anti-gay candidates in the party known for the most anti-gay platform.  Can you really not figure out the difference?

Hope I have “cleared that up” for you. 

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