NOM’s idiotic trumpeting of a mangled third hand report

Timothy Kincaid

March 27th, 2013

You have to love this declaration from NOM:

UKDailyMail: “Christian Opponents Easily Outnumbering Advocates for Gay Marriage”

It all started with Yahoo’s Chris Moody reporting an incident in the events of yesterday. He followed the NOM marchers’ progress:

When members of the crowd rose, they pressed on further down the street, where they were met by another small group of people that had stretched out a rainbow flag in front of them. When they refused to budge from the street, NOM organizers urged everyone to just go around them.

From which the Daily Mail, apparently not present and completely unaware of any other media coverage on the planet, extrapolated to mean:

Both sides of the debate were out in force, with Christian opponents easily outnumbering advocates for gay marriage.

And which led the integrity-deprived National Organization to pretend as though it were true. Personally, I’d be embarrassed to engage in such shameless behavior.

And I can’t help but wonder: if your pants are forever aflame, does that mean that you’re already in hell?

Matt

March 27th, 2013

That or they have PLS (Perpetual Liar Syndrome)

Mark

March 28th, 2013

The Daily Mail (aka Daily Fail) is one of the worst newspapers in Britain and anything it prints should be taken with a huge pinch of salt anyway.

markanthony

March 28th, 2013

If it works, it works. Just reading through the comments on the NR web page, that daily mail article is getting highlighted. I guess if you want to believe, you will grasp at any straw.

Hunter

March 28th, 2013

Timothy —

“NOM” and “shameless” are synonymous.

Timothy (TRiG)

March 28th, 2013

Daily Fail, yes. I’ve also heard it called the Daily Heil, given it’s rabid racist right-wing tendencies.

TRiG.

John

March 28th, 2013

I confess to not being there and not seeing all of the media coverage, but there’s nothing in Timothy’s brief blurb to contradict the Daily Mail statement.

Josh

March 29th, 2013

I agree with John. A link saying exactly how the quoted bit is such a blatant lie would be helpful. It seems like a glaring omission.

FWIW, I don’t think the name-calling is that helpful. It reminds me of the (I shudder to think on it) day I spent on NOMblog’s comments.

Timothy Kincaid

March 29th, 2013

John and Josh,

I posted pics (BTB exclusive pics, at that) to the actual march. Not too hefty.

Media abounds about the size of the gay protest. I just assumed that it was a given. Sorry.

All the media reports suggest that the crowds at the capital were pretty equal. Or, at least, they don’t report one side being larger. Gay sources seem to believe supporters on Wednesday were maybe to our favor – but we may be a bit biased.

But other than the wacky British tabloid, no one thinks that the anti-gays outnumbered the supporters.

Wednesday was another story. According to from Brightbart, no less, on Wednesday there were thousands of pro marriage supporters but other tha the ‘God Hates Fags’ church, no anti-gay protesters showed up at all.

Josh

March 29th, 2013

Thanks for the link. The first comment, or more importantly its relatively large number of upvotes, is depressing.

The pics posted earlier weren’t completely clear in that they may or may not have showed the full extent of the NOM rally at its peak. I didn’t see comparable pics for the pro-gay side.

I’ve had trouble finding sources commenting on the relative numbers. I found several that say NOM-related people vastly overestimated their numbers, which isn’t the same thing. The consensus seems to be the numbers were at least similar, inasmuch as nobody besides The Daily Mail (what a horrible source) called out a clear winner size-wise, for Tuesday’s rallies.

markanthony

March 29th, 2013

NOM’s newsletter is out today. They reference the Daily Mail article in an attempt to show that the U.S. media is in some type of conspiracy against them. I guess they just relay on their followers paranoia.

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