“…the majority of Americans believe…”

Timothy Kincaid

September 24th, 2013

It baffles me. Today from the National Organization for Marriage (theirs, not yours):

I’ve written to you about it before… the IRS… the courts… government bureaucrats… state human rights commissions… election boards… these are the preferred vehicles (along with complicit state attorneys general and activist judges) that the far left is using to circumvent the will of voters — “We the People” — and impose their radical agenda on you and me.

Why? Because gay ‘marriage’ activists know that the majority of Americans believe marriage is the union of one man and one woman! The majority will never go along with their radical social experiment.

First, yes I’ve noticed (as you likely have) that NOM is now going full tilt anti-gay, not just genteelly opposed to same-sex marriage. This includes not only taking up non-marriage related issues, but also ratcheting up the adjectives (militant, radical, etc.) and ranting against “the homosexual lifestyle”. It is, I believe, an indication of their desperation and increasing irrelevancy.

But still I just don’t understand their wacky insistence that they are in the majority, that Americans are opposed to same-sex marriage. Poll after poll after poll all say the same thing: a majority of Americans already believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry. It’s a steady majority, and is trending towards additional support.

Now I get the idea of spin, making a claim that could kinda-sorta be seen to be true (if you squint) in hopes of driving public opinion. And NOM can fall back on the idea that when given three options (marriage, civil unions, and nothing at all) polls still show that less than a majority opts for marriage (while ignoring the fact that their “nothing at all” position is favored least of all). Or they can cling to Fox News polls (which show a statistical tie) or other outliers.

But it’s mind-numbingly absurd to make the sort of “never go along with” statement that they assert.

Surely they are aware that their potential supporters own television sets and that polls supporting equality tend to be big-news items. Marriage opponents have children and grandchildren and must be aware that their views are not reflected by the next generations. Does NOM have so little respect for their audience?

This does not bode well for NOM’s future. Eventually, even Aunt Thelma comes to the realization, “ya know, I support traditional marriage just like the Bible says and I believe kids these days are taking us on the road to perdition. But these NOM people think I’m an idiot!”

David in the O.C.

September 24th, 2013

“The majority will never go along with their radical social experiment.”

Except for those majorities in 4 states in the last election. Except for those millions of Americans, no one is ever going to support marriage equality.

*snark*

TampaZeke

September 24th, 2013

Timothy, you seem to be under the impression that NOM’s base market is in any way interested in, or concerned with, facts or reality. Facts and reality haven’t gotten in the way of their beliefs in the past, so why should we expect them to suddenly affect them now?

Hunter

September 24th, 2013

Sounds like Brian Brown once heard of the idea of “self-fulfilling prophecy” but never bothered to learn what it’s really about.

Bose in St. Peter MN

September 24th, 2013

Yup, and NOM especially treats its donors like idiots, demanding that they give “sacrificially” so that NOM can “mobilize the grassroots base of marriage supporters.”

The dollars given to mobilize grassroots folks in MN failed to do so, which NOM admitted afterward, but blamed pastors.

Their million-dollar matched-gift donor is a little less of an idiot, requiring NOM to prove its competence in fundraising, but even that is advancing at a snail’s pace. But their clueless pitch remains, “Give to NOM, so we can lose again, and blame you for not giving enough.”

CPT_Doom

September 24th, 2013

“… the majority of Americans believe marriage is the union of one man and one woman…”

Well, duh. I support marriage as the union of a man and a woman, just not exclusively.

bill johnson

September 24th, 2013

Timothy: To answer your question NOM has no respect at all for their audience. Forget deception, they have been caught outright lying to their base on numerous occasions and honestly at this point its standard operating procedures for them. They lie about the nature of their fundraising, they take images of events and then pretend that those images are pictures from their events, they lie about the number of people who show up at their events, heck they even lie about the current status of marriage laws. Someone who got their marriage news exclusively from NOM would have an inaccurate or at best consistently out of date picture of laws surrounding same sex marriage in the US and around the world.

So no they don’t trust their supporters enough to give them an accurate report of how things stand, instead they tell them what NOM thinks its supporters should hear. If NOM wants to challenge that pronouncement they can do so after they stop outright lying on their blog on a regular basis but until that time they don’t have a leg to stand on.

Markanthony

September 24th, 2013

U get the idea that NOM’s readers are much older than average and really aren’t connected with a wider American culture.

They haven’t allowed comments for some time. Maybe they have given up the pretense that anyone is actually following them.

Joseph Singer

September 24th, 2013

And let’s not forget that for some like Maggie and Brian Brown they _count_ on taking up the fight against SSM because they don’t get a paycheck unless they put up the good fight. I don’t know about Maggie, but Brian earns a six figure salary that helps pay for his car and probably his house. Without a boogey man to fight he’s unemployed.

Richard Rush

September 24th, 2013

NOM appears to be working diligently, and probably invoking a novena or two, in order to maximize their chances of winning a coveted designation from the SPLC as a certified hate-group. Then, NOM can gleefully claim to be a victim of persecution as a way to boost their fundraising results.

The Lauderdale

September 25th, 2013

“Eventually, even Aunt Thelma comes to the realization…”

I think Aunt Thelma may already have figured it out. There isn’t a single comment on any of those NOM blog posts.

Johnson

September 25th, 2013

The ole Anti-Gay Gravy train is quickly coming to an end for NOM and they are scared witless. And when Maggie was in charge, she paid herself a salary over 200,000/year. I assume Brown does the same.

markanthony

September 26th, 2013

Odd that NOM is still calling for comments on there blog but won’t allow any. Maybe it really is just a con job now.

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