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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyOctober 7th, 2014
From a press release:
Yesterday’s action by the Supreme Court only solidifies the idea that the powerful elites who dominate politics, media and culture do not care what the people think, expressed through the ballot box or their elected state legislators. And if “We the People’s” votes do not count, then We live not in freedom but under tyranny.
The notion that nine men and women in black robes know more about what constitutes marriage than 76 percent of Oklahoma’s voters is insulting and preposterous. Now is the time for civil disobedience on a massive scale: we hope that statesmen and citizens alike–in Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Indiana, Utah and Virginia—indeed, any state where the people’s will has been robbed by elitist judges—will reassert their state sovereignty against escalating judicial supremacy.
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Bose in St. Peter MN
October 7th, 2014
And after having 24 hours to come up with ideas for what “civil disobedience on a massive scale” might look like, LaBarbera still has nada. Block courthouse entrances? Massive pickets? Hetero boycotts of marriage? This is lazy, empty chatter by someone who’s been in this fight for years and should have known a loss was forthcoming, later than it did, perhaps, but coming regardless.
I love it that he cites 9 justices, when the simple truth is that, at best, they got the support of three. Chances are good that neither Kennedy nor Roberts was on board with granting cert.
Timothy Kincaid
October 7th, 2014
I’d dare say that nine men and women in black robes (pretty much any nine random men and women we could convince to wear a black robe for a few minutes) know more about pretty much anything than 76% of Oklahomans. But that’s just a guess.
Priya Lynn
October 7th, 2014
Poor pitiful Peter, longing for “massive civil disobedience” that he knows deep down inside will never happen. The vast majority of Americans (including those who oppose gay marriage) just don’t care very much about gays getting the right to marry. There isn’t going to be any civil disobedience.
Richard Rush
October 7th, 2014
Peter has devoted his life to promoting his god’s perceived will on the lives of gay people, and now his god has rewarded him with failure, political irrelevance, a shrunken pool of followers, an income that is surely declining, and the social status of a KKK member.
In his call for “Civil Disobedience on a Massive Scale”, it’s notable that he did not invoke the awesome power of prayer. I suppose that represents an incremental baby step on the road to reality.
Timothy Kincaid
October 7th, 2014
Richard…
Perhaps that’s because he noticed that God already answered prayers on the matter. Peter just didn’t like the answer.
From August 27 to October 5, the Virginia Family Foundation held “40 Days Of Prayer, Fasting And Repentance For Marriage” (well, kinda sorta fasting, except for the not-eating part). On the very next day, October 6, marriage equality came to Virginia.
For someone with Peter’s beliefs, that must be tough.
Richard Rush
October 7th, 2014
“(well, kinda sorta fasting, except for the not-eating part).”
Damn you, Timothy, now I have green tea all over my keyboard.
Nathaniel
October 7th, 2014
People on both ‘sides’ have been praying sincerely. One side was bound to receive an answer they didn’t like. But as far as I am concerned, God didn’t so much say “no” to Peter and his followers, as God said “yes” to those praying for freedom and justice. (Although, it now strikes me that those praying against us might also have prayed for “freedom” and “justice,” in which case, the answer wasn’t so much “no” as “this is what freedom and justice actually look like”). Any way, when we finally get this settled in NC, I’ll be sure to comfort my anti-gay family and friends with assurances that God still listens and acts for the good of ALL God’s children.
Priya Lynn
October 7th, 2014
Oh dear.
Regan DuCasse
October 7th, 2014
Let’s not forget how Peter LaB responded to his treatment in Canada.
He’s spineless to really have to deal with the consequences of civil disobedience.
He’s searching high and low, mostly low, for a way to make his point, without REALLY having to be inconvenienced in the least by it.
Try as he might, he has too many rights and protections to complain about.
He has more freedom than he obviously and literally knows what to do with or appreciate.
And now this.
Those of us who come from the kind of ancestry, or who are female, of color…
that he’s SO arrogant he can’t appreciate what he’s always had, really pisses me off.
Mike Michaels
October 7th, 2014
As Republicans frequently like to point out, we do not live in a Democracy.
Karen
October 7th, 2014
massive civil disobedience? Hum. I guess that everyone who does not believe in gay marriage could refuse to have one. . .
Ben in oakland
October 7th, 2014
Oh,Petey. You big ol’ drama queen, you.
Are you trying to play “let’s you and him fight” and suitable to your role as a drama queen, use the whole society for your drama?
Here’s some advice. emotionally and spiritually healthy people, people who dont earn their livings attacking onnocent others, who don’t obsess about the lives of other people, or scare themselves with the lies they tell themselves that their obsession produces, can see what you’re doing. You are not convincing them, and the more obsessed you are, the more they see you for who you are. Moreover, the people you have managed to gull into doing your fighting for you, are not all stupid, or sin and God obsesssed, or irretrievably poisoned by hate– either for other people they don’t know, or for themselves.
You might say your demoographic is dwindling, because you have always relied upon the closet to be your enforcer, and the closet is rapidly disappearing in western culture. it will always be there, but for fewer people.
So please, keep doing what you are doing. convince decent, kind, compassionate and other wise open minded people that you are crazy, motivated by bigotry, and probably have some issues. You must, you know. You sure do spend a
Lot of your time thinking about homosexuality. Far more than I, a certified, proud, avowed, and loud homosexual older than you. and I wouldn’t be caught dead at the Folsom Street Fair, but there you were!
It is possible, of course that we might be approaching the percentile limit of those we can convince easily. I don’t know. Neither does anyone else. But you are betting that we are very nearly at that point. I am betting that the American public isn’t as stupid as you seem to believe, or need to believe, they are.
So please, please keep attempting to sow division. Either that, or please, find a way to join your lord as a just reward for you so faithful service.
It ought to raise the holiness quotient of both words.
Ben in oakland
October 7th, 2014
Worlds. not words.
Nothing like ruining your own punchline.
enough already
October 8th, 2014
Well, here’s an idea for his uprising:
How about Christian priests stop raping little children?
How about Christian parents stop kicking their kids to the street when they are different in any way to the ‘ideal’ those parents have set?
How about Christian politicians actually staying true and loyal to their wives?
Oh, and here’s a real clincher: How about all those fine, upstanding Christians actually following the words of that Jewish Rabbi they ignore in favour of that hate-driven Pharisee Saul, er, Paul?
Nah, never happen.
Hunter
October 8th, 2014
Not to belabor the obvious, but LaBarbera’s defining characteristic throughout his career as an anti-gay activist has been incompetence.
Grandiose rhetoric is all he has left.
TonyJazzz
October 9th, 2014
He’s right. He needs to take a stand, and his friends should, too.
None of them should seek out a marriage to someone of the same gender!
Stand up for what you believe in!
William Rogers
October 11th, 2014
Well, Peter, WE THE PEOPLE of Washington and the State of Maine VOTED FOR same-gender marriage. Are you going to take that away? Does “we the people” only apply to those with whom you agree?- It does seem to be the case. Peter Labarbera, have you NOTHING BETTER to do with your time? Oh I forgot hate groups like yours make good money, don’t want to give that up do you Pete, Tony, Pat et al!
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