NYT Reports Jamaica’s Anti-Gay Violence, Ex-Gay Efforts

Timothy Kincaid

February 25th, 2008

jamaica-flag.bmpThe New York Times has an article today on the dangerous atmosphere in Jamaica.

Being gay in Jamaica is not easy. For years, human rights groups have denounced the harassment, beating and even killing of gays here, to little avail. No official statistic has been compiled on the number of attacks. But a recent string of especially violent, high-profile assaults has brought fresh condemnation to an island otherwise known as an easygoing tourist haven.

In times past, I have criticized the ex-gay movement, particularly members of the Exodus Global Alliance, for what I perceived as encouragement of hostilities towards gays. This article sheds light on what might well be the motivations of this branch of the Exodus family.

Since the attack, Andre said, he has been trying to undo his gayness, following a common view here that it is an acquired behavior that can be dropped if only one prays more and pays more attention to the opposite sex.

He fled Mandeville after the attack and found refuge at the home of a pastor, who now delivers at-home sermons to him on how he must change.

With the pastor standing over him, Andre said he would try to be attracted to women, if only so he would never be beaten again.

I am still waiting for those who rail against the “sin of homosexuality” to weigh in on the sin of murder. At times I wonder if the Church has spent so much effort on combatting the “immorality” of others that they haven’t completely lost their authority for fighting what is truly evil.

Regan DuCasse

February 25th, 2008

Few people are born into homes that are not religious. Atheists, agnostics…are rarer. And some choose to be after their respective religious communities hold no passion for them.
In this case, where a gay person knows who they are, and their feelings but are blackmailed into believing or denying their identity, can a church of ANY kind, call itself or believe that it’s outreach is sincere?
A man is in hiding from a MOB. Threats to one’s life, family, profession are urgent issues for a gay person, yet how can a true Christian say that a gay person, or ANY person’s conversion is in itself real and a commitment that is willing?

Why would Christians consider such circumstances that of a person fully converted for THEIR own reasons?

This is why I say that the choice before a gay person are between a rock and a hard place. There isn’t much difference between trusting the mob, or trusting the sincerity of the pastor he’s submitting himself to.
If this gay man refuses the help of this pastor or can’t commit fully to this pastor’s disciplines…what then.
Throw him to the mob?

These are self appointed middlemen to God. The privacy between an individual and God is seriously compromised in these situations.
Gay men and women have lived with who they are longer than those straight people who don’t care to know them at all.
And they never really will know a gay person as long as the aim and agenda is to not have that gay person there.
God and the gay person knows who is who. That pastors like this don’t want or care to, is saying something.
And no matter how many opportunities there are, the assumption that a gay person and God are divided of one another is more than a note of arrogance.
Anyone that supports conversion from being gay, knows the mob is right there or a deritive of the mob. Right outside the door anytime, anywhere.
I have to ask each and everyone who supports anti gay conversion:

‘how can threat on any level be considered God’s will to those desperate to survive and live their own way they were made?’

I’ve asked…still waiting for the answer.

Elise

February 25th, 2008

That link above actually takes you to the Latter-Day Saints story, I think this is the url you meant: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/americas/24jamaica.html?em&ex=1204088400&en=e6e12d7b37b27db0&ei=5087.

Such a disturbing article, but thanks for sharing it. It really puts the struggle I face here in Blue State America into sharp perspective.

“The country’s public defender, Earl Witter, later condemned the violence at the funeral, but he also reinforced the common view that if only gays would be less flamboyant, there would be less violence against them.”

Sadly, this attitude isn’t confined to Jamaica. One need only put it into another context to see the sickness of it. “But officer, she was wearing a miniskirt and walking alone. I basically *had* to rape her.”

jamaica Anti- gay in

June 12th, 2008

just go to the united state we don’t want people like this individual in our country. would you accept a child molester for who he is ? you wouldn’t. then your going to say that that no the same thing, but in bought of these example, the individual are going against nature. when we have a society that everybody does what they want that the end of our society. if you can’t change go where they would accept you but not in jamaica !!!!!!!!!! we’re god bless !!!!!!1 and god doesn’t like the act along with other sinful acts. Change or leave.

Juda BlaX

July 14th, 2008

Honestly……i don’t really give a flyin fuck about religion…..i control my destiny….not sum imaginary entity…..(translation)……but if di bwoy wah fi be ah batty bwoy…..den low ‘im…..az long az its not ur batty ‘im want……mi nuh bizniz wid nuh body……mi nah agree wit man an man 2gether……but at di same tyme…… mi nuh care…..cuz……mi nuh want sum likkle christian puss hole fi cum n tell mi dat mi wrong fi not followin n trustin inna fi ‘im god…..mi will draw fi mi blade n kill ‘im where ‘im stand……mi juss ah seh…..nuh judge……if dem wrong……lef dem to “god”……or wut eva u follow!

[Juda BlaX]

ENA

August 11th, 2008

WELL,I DONT AGREE WITH PEOPLE OF THE SAME SEX HAVING RELATIONSHIPS,HOWEVER I THING WE NEED T SEPERATE RELIGEON FROM THIS ISSUE BECAUSE SOME OF WHO PREACHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALLITY IS DOING WORST THAN JUCKING BATTY,AM A VERY RELIGEOUS PERSON AD AM SCARED OF THE PREACHERS NOW A DAYS AND THE SISTERS IN THE CHURCHES AND BROTHERS.sO PLEASE OMITT CHRISTANITY AND THE PREACHING.

God

July 20th, 2009

Being gay is a sin in my law , but its not for you to judge, thats my job, your job is to love your naghber as you love yourself and love your enermys as christ loved and died for all you siners in my name, your job is to show my way. thoughs that judge others will also be judged, some think there way is right in there oun eyes but it leeds them to hell, my son is the way the trouth and the life who are you, jamaica is sining against me , repent now in the son the ghost and and the farther, some will turn there back and face hell, i ask you not to follow them they made there choice. Im your farther in heaven and i love you.

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