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  1. Lynn David
    December 17, 2009

    Recalling Warren’s repudiation of Ssempa, one wonders if he is thinking along the same lines with Kagame of Rwanda. Don Schmierer said that David Bahati “does not reflect the Ugandans that I have ministered too. … After some challenges from me (except for one person) they softened up and came around to a more redemptive position.” I wonder if those other than that one person was Ssempa, or Langa or anyone else he talked to.

  2. David
    December 17, 2009

    It is possible that the homophobes in Uganda could bring down the homophobes in the U.S.

    Recognition of that danger may explain the recent distancing that Rick Warren and his co-propagandists have engaged in regarding Uganda – a desperate attempt to distance themselves from the implementation of their ministry, lest it destroy their lucrative careers in the states.

    Warren and Ssempa are birds from the same flock, and it is clear from Ssempa’s own words that Warren was a mentor and teacher for him.

    Instead of celebrating the weasel-worded statements from Warren and company, we should be constantly reminding the rest of U.S. society that these professional homophobes fertilized and actively nurtured the hate now coming to fruit in Uganda.

  3. wackadoodle
    December 18, 2009

    Instead of celebrating the weasel-worded statements from Warren and company, we should be constantly reminding the rest of U.S. society that these professional homophobes fertilized and actively nurtured the hate now coming to fruit in Uganda.

    No you see they issued a single statement saying that its wrong to murder gay people. That totally absolves them of any involvement in this anti-gay law in a country they’ve spent years in preaching that gays are disgusting dangerous deluded perverts no different from pedophiles and drug addicts.

    Seriously, you cant say “homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus (its) not a human right.” and then pretend to not be involved when they follow that philosophy.

  4. CB
    December 18, 2009

    Rick Warren is a sleaze. He and his Conservative ilk should also be held partially responsible for pushing these nuts to the point of genocide. Their hate has been widely reported, and as such, nuts like members of the Uganda government, think it is acceptable to murder a populous.

    With Warren and others facing some heat here in the U.S., they are quietly ‘condemning’ this proposed genocide of humans.

    I am a minority in this thought, but I think that those like Warren, Palin, O’Reilly, Hannity, Prejean, Gallagher, Brown, Diaz, Beck, Kern, the Republican Party, Conservatives, FOX News, etc. should be taken to task on this. They are no different than those proposing this holocaust. Their hate helped to fuel the fire. So have many religious leaders, who I refer to as the Religious Reich. I dare to say that FOX News’ elite (O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck) haven’t even reported, whoops, they don’t report, I mean provide comment on this.

    If you click on my nomen (initials), you will see a 1939 MGM cartoon, fit for the season, but also somewhat fits into this discussion.

  5. Elise
    December 18, 2009

    “We suggested the inclusion of counseling and rehabilitation being offered to offenders and victims.”

    So, is that instead of jail time, or in addition to it?

  6. Darren
    December 18, 2009

    “You are further remembered to say, “homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus (its) not a human right. We shall not tolerate this aspect at all.””

    If the above is, in fact, a statement from Warren, then he has clearly helped create this mess. How very sad.

  7. anteros
    December 18, 2009

    I personally witnessed Ssempa’s anti-gay rally in Kampala. It was very scary, lots of hate. It was a rowdy crowd almost like a lynch mob out of the movies, with posters and placards reading stuff like “Homos will go to hell” and “God hates gays” and “Gays are kiwani (phony)”. After the rally, those posters were stuck on a fence for all to see, along Kampala’s busiest roads opposite one of the most popular shopping centers.

    Ssempa has been on television countless times, spreading homophobia. His method is always the same, he claims to have expertise and special knowledge on the subject and then asserts the following:

    Homosexuality = anal sex = pedophilia = western perversion = male rape = evil/ungodly = unnatural = recruitment of kids into homosexuality = illegal… etc

    Ssempa, despite having a white wife, often racializes his attacks on both homosexuality and tolerance towards homosexuality. On this evening’s Luganda news, he criticised President Obama, saying that as a son of an African man, he should be ashamed to be opposing Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill and made disparaging reference to “bazungu” (white people). He also said that of all the issues for President Obama to criticise, homosexuality is low priority – despite the fact that that’s all Ssempa is known for himself.

    He deliberately rouses the public into a homophobic frenzy and convinces them that homosexuality is an evil threat. The words he attributed to Warren actually sound a lot like the exact kind of thing Ssempa repeats on television.

    This bill belongs to Bahati, Ssempa and Buturo.

  8. anteros
    December 18, 2009

    Ssempa recently coined what he calls “Michael Jackson Syndrome” to attack Ugandans in the diaspora… he says they are born black but die white. He uses these kind of attacks to question the “africanness” or “blackness” of Ugandans in the diaspora who express attitudes of tolerance or indifference towards homosexuality. What does his poor wife have to say about Ssempa’s racist remarks?

    Ssempa was one of the chief sponsors of the false allegations of sexual abuse laid against Pastor Kayanja.

    And now here he is, pushing for forced therapy.

    He is bad news. I dont know why anybody would pay any attention to him or take him seriously the way so many Ugandans do.

  9. Benjamin
    December 18, 2009

    The professional anti-gays can’t handle this recession so they have to peddle their fraud overseas to other countries that might take it. What a profitable export this fraud must be for them.

  10. Benjamin
    December 18, 2009

    Again I say it would be incredible if we could bring Alexander & Hephaistion back along with their armies and roll over Uganda like an all consuming fire. They would be screaming for mercy. I’m sick of this to the point I wish a U.N. sponsored military force would intervene. This gay genocide is absolutely unacceptable and no free nation should ever tolerate this.

  11. Eric in Oakland
    December 18, 2009

    It is interesting to me that a major part of Ssempa’s defense of the Anti-homosexuality Bill is that homophobia is a “tradition” in his church and country. Well, cannibalism, slavery, and human sacrifice were once also traditions.

    I also find it curious that he repeatedly peddles the pretense that the bill would only criminalize rape and pedophilia. If he truly believes it is just to punish gays for getting married or for having consentual relations with another adult, then why lie about the bill?

  12. mikeksf
    December 18, 2009

    Will we next see Warren Livley, Exodus, et. al. in Jamaica? That seems like fertile ground for their money grubbing ministries.

  13. ZRAinSWVA
    December 19, 2009

    “Jesus’s gospel is a stumbling block, and a rock of offense.”

    Please, someone, tell me: what in the world does that mean???

  14. Family Policy
    December 21, 2009

    anteros, what part of Kampala do you leave, i have never seen these things you are writing about about ssempa and his demonstrations, man stop propagating misinforamtion…

  15. anteros
    December 21, 2009

    That rally was at Lugogo, opposite Shoprite. The posters were stuck on the wooden fence. I saw it. And it was even on the news. Nsaba Buturo made a guest appearance at that rally. Go to google, there are enough reliable sources about all the things I have written about. What exactly do you mean by “misinformation”? …give me even one example of something I wrote that is not true.

  16. anteros
    December 22, 2009
  17. anteros
    December 22, 2009

    Family Policy: please read all the comments posted at the end of the above article… then tell me about misinformation.

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