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Two Anti-Gay BFF’s Mend Their Near-Falling Out

Jim Burroway

December 21st, 2009

Matt Barber is patching things up with Peter LaBarbera over a statement by Barber posted on LaBarbera’s web site. It was a bit touchy there for a while, with Barber’s employer, the Liberty Counsel, getting involved with the dust-up. But now things are all smiles.

It all began when Peter “Porno Pete” LaBarbera was trying to build support over a proposed boycott of the Conservative Political Action Conference over its co-sponsorship by GOProud, which describes itself as  “the only national organization for gay conservatives and their allies.” LaBarbera is completely beside himself over this, and when he gets beside himself, his rhetoric becomes even more intemperate than normal (if you can imagine that). This time, I guess words failed him, so he turned to his good friend Matt Barber to supply the pithy line:

Matt BarberIt boils down to this: there is nothing “conservative” about — as Barber inimitably puts it — “one man violently cramming his penis into another man\’s lower intestine and calling it ‘love.\'” Or two women awkwardly mimicking natural procreative relations or raising a child together in an intentionally fatherless home.

That got Exodus International vice president Randy Thomas’ attention, and that, in turned, spurred a letter by Exodus president Alan Chambers to Matt Barber’s employer, the Liberty Counsel. (You see? Exodus International really is capable of rapid response when they want to call others on the carpet, but not when it comes to keeping their own house in order.) That letter led to a response from the Liberty Counsel, which essentially called Peter LaBarbera a liar:

Neither Matt Barber nor anyone with Liberty Counsel wrote or made any such public statement that is being alleged in this blog. Liberty Counsel promotes the traditional family of one man and one woman because we believe that such relationships are best for society and for children. While we strongly disagree with the sexual politics and agenda of activist organizations and individuals, we also believe that each person is entitled to respect. While there are some that hate us because of our message of sexual integrity, redemption, change, and hope, we have never, and will never, confuse the person with the agenda. We have never sought to dehumanize people to promote our message. Our message is one of redemption through the power of Jesus Christ.”

Nice huh? Barber would never really say anything like that, would he? After all, that would be dehumanizing. LaBarbera defends himself in a comment on the Exodus blog:

Peter LaBarberaThe quotation in question by Matt Barber — a brutally honest and necessarily accurate description of homosexual sodomy — is printed verbatim and was made in conversation between the two of us years ago — long before he went to work for Liberty Counsel. I asked Matt at the time if I could quote him on it and he gave me permission to use it, and ultimately I did — in the context of showing how CPAC or any organization that defends sodomy (as GOProud and countless other GLBT organizations implicitly and explicitly do) cannot call itself “conservative.”

LaBarbera also denounced Exodus for being unbiblical. I guess Exodus is too “nice” for LaBarbera’s taste. LaBarbera has also followed up with this on his own web site, and he wants the world to  know that he quoted Barber correctly with this clarification from Barber himself:

“This is for clarification only. As affirmed in Liberty Counsel\’s statement, neither I nor anyone with Liberty Counsel ever publicly ‘wrote or made\’ the comment in question – an unapologetically direct and accurate depiction of the sin of sodomy (a sin that God directly and accurately calls both an ‘abomination\’ and ‘detestable\’). Some years before I began working with Liberty Counsel, I made the comment in private conversation with Peter LaBarbera. At the time, Peter asked if he could ‘quote me on it\’ and I said yes.

Now that Barber is happy to claim ownership to the quote that his own employer characterized as dehumanizing, can we expect another “clarification” from the Liberty Counsel? It looks like the ball is back in their court now.



December 21st, 2009 | LINK

Sodomy this, sodomy that. I STILL am amazed how obsessed LaBarbera is with it.

At least the BFs (whoops, I mean BFFs) kissed and made up.

Transplanted Lawyer
December 21st, 2009 | LINK

Once upon a time, to be “conservative” meant to vigilantly safeguard individual rights and liberties against all state actors who would inhibit their exercise, and to keep a skeptical and deeply suspicious eye turned towards any attempt by any government agency to extend or enlarge its power.

I guess it boils down to this: there is nothing “conservative” about the government or anyone else concerning themselves with how two consenting adults choose to behave behind closed doors.

Jason D
December 21st, 2009 | LINK

“one man violently cramming his penis into another man’s lower intestine and calling it ‘love.’”


Matt, Matt, Matt, that’s sex, not love. If you keep confusing the two you’re only going to get your heart broken.

Harold Bellfranc
December 21st, 2009 | LINK

It may not be love, but it sure as hell is fun!

Lynn David
December 22nd, 2009 | LINK

I suspect that the letter Exodus wrote to Museveni had something to do with LaBarbera considering Exodus to be unBiblical, especially with Throckmorton being a signatory. Porno Pete already was calling his blog “Switzerland” for its neutrality, no doubt he felt like Lively that Throckmorton had “gone over to the dark side.”

Yep, it had to be there. From a post by LaBarbera on the Exodus blog, “…it’s easy to go further into heresy, as Warren Throckmorton astonishingly has in becoming a de facto pro-homosexual activist of sorts…” Odd that people like LaBarbera see Dr Throckmorton to be in heresy for simply speaking what is obviously true about homosexuality, which then necessarily makes LaBarbera’s side out to be harbingers of lies.

December 22nd, 2009 | LINK

Okay.. two can play at this game..

One man violently cramming his penis into a woman’s hymen, rupturing it and causing it to bleed all over the bedsheets and calling it ‘love.’

Timothy Kincaid
December 22nd, 2009 | LINK


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