6 responses

  1. Swampfox
    May 13, 2010

    No follow-up? What is the definition of credible ……….. or should I just say incredible?

  2. paul j stein
    May 13, 2010

    Sounds like it was a way to milk the gays for MONEY. Like most religion…SHOW ME THE MONEY! GIVE ME THE MONEY! I WILL SAVE YOUR SOUL!

  3. Paul in Canada
    May 13, 2010

    Ex-gay ministries, Exodus being the one I’m familiar with, catagorize those who stop coming to the program, in 3 ways:

    1. those who declare that they’ve had enough are “lost” – having given in to the devil – those ‘poor demons’ are prayed for once, and then forgotten completely.

    2. those whose attendance is sporadic or diminishing over time, are indeed not contacted, but prayed for that God’s spirit will continue to ‘protect’ them and bring them back in order to be saved from the ‘life-style’.

    3. Those, like me, who proclaim that they accept their orienation as a gift from God and proudly embrace their sexuality, are quickly escorted out and the others are warned that any contact with them means certain damnation.

    Ironically, going to Exodus ‘sessions’ was the spring-board that allowed me to come to terms with, and accept who I am. It allowed me to consciously confront my sexual orientation instead of hiding from it, keeping it locked deep down. And opened my eyes to the hypocracy of fundamental christianity and find my own authentic faith in the Sacred/Devine.

    Thanks Exodus!

  4. Robert Goodman, MS
    May 14, 2010

    As someone who has studied gay identity development, and did his masters thesis, in part, on the subject, I know that when people want to be straight and “fail”, some do advance in their development and come to accept themselves as gay. However, those who are not able to accept the truth about themselves, become highly vulnerable to suicide. So, while Mr. Bussee is relieved that many of the folks he spoke with are now doing fine, he is only seeing a part of the picture. What about all of those folks he has not connected with? I’ll bet, if long term follow up had been done, we would find that many of those folks are no longer with us–and probably spent the remainder of their lives in great pain.

  5. Mark F.
    May 14, 2010

    Well, it’s pretty obvious that Michael Bussee still has not totally come to terms with his involvement in Exodus, although he’s making a great effort. I also noticed the uncomfortable body language here. I can’t blame him for trying to find a silver lining, but Mr. Goodman does make some good points re: the situation.

    Off topic: Michael is a very sweet and attractive man. His partner is very fortunate.

  6. Michael Bussee
    May 14, 2010

    Robert, I certainly did NOT mean to imply that they were all doing well. Far from it.

    I left the program over 30 years ago, and have met many who have been through this same kind of experience in the decades since I came out.

    Many still struggle with depression, guilt, loss of faith. That’s why I continue to speak out against what has been done in the 30 years since I left — and will continue to do so.

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