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News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyJune 28th, 2010
It seems that the National Organization of Marriage has been gradually slipping off message. Long pretending that “we don’t hate homosexuals”, NOM tried to keep up the image that they were just opposed to same-sex marriage (for the children, you know). But it seems that Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown have found the effort of appearing pleasant to be daunting (or perhaps less financially fulfilling) because recent comments seem to be veering closer and closer to plain old anti-gay animus and playground meanness.
Now Jeremy at Good_As_You has (along with blogger Matt Algren) identified an affiliation between NOM and their new strategist, anti-gay activist Louis J. Marinelli III. The language and claims of Mr. Marinelli bring NOM into a whole new category. Here are a few of the tweets that Marinelli has recently made on NOM’s behalf.
Those who wish to promote homosexual behaviour are encouraging people to shorten their life spans. Homosexuality is not a healthy lifestyle.
(We debunked the “shorten lives” claim)
#nevertrust activists of the homosexual agenda – they are deceitful people who care only about themselves and not what’s best for society!
It is clear that Maggie and Brian have decided to link their organization to the most radical and extreme segments of the anti-gay movement. They are now taking on the tone of spiteful slurs and villification of the gay community.
But really, is it all that surprising?
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AJD
June 28th, 2010
They’ve always hinted at it, from Maggie’s recent “We’re here, and we’re not queer” “joke” to the inclusion of Orson Scott Card on the board of directors.
Ben in Oakland
June 28th, 2010
Timothy, I think this is WONDERFUL news. But that may just be me.
One of the very obvious things from the trial was the absolute lameness of what the anti-gays (and we all know that they are. WE don’t have to pretend!) had to say. When they could no longer rely on fear mongering gays-are-gonna-get-your-children innuendo, and had to produce some actual evidence and logic, they couldn’t do it. They didn’t even bring in Stanley Kurtz at all, and only obliquely referred to his so-called “work” (De-institutionalization, a nice way of saying homobigotry is so die-hard that people would rather destroy heterosexual marriage than overcome it. doesn’t say much for them! It’s the “Unit Cohesion” argument of Family-based heterosexism.)
So, given the paucity of their actual authority, they have to find something “new” (I.e., new to them) to say. It’s the same old story– gay people are hateful and despicable and hedonistic-and anti-family anti-social and on and on and on. Dehumanize and make us an enemy of our VERY OWN VALUES. Which of course, according to them, we don’t have. Their dehumanization of us is as circular as their reasoning.
But it’s just got itself a new outfit on. Now we wish to destroy heterosexual marriage because are so un and antihuman that we don’t care about anything except our selfish desires. We don’t care what destruction we will wreak on the Sagrada Familia. Note the subtle change of tense: it is given that not only will it happen, but that we want it to and will enjoy it supremely– because we’re not really like them, you know?
They portray themselves as actual moderates in tune with mainstream America, and wishing only to preserve marriage and family. (We know that is horseshit!) By aligning themselves, as they appear to be doing, with the anti-gays (publicly, at least) they are moving away from that patently false portrayal. Maybe this is where they are not very clear with themselves.
However, cynic that I am, since Mags does not impress me as being any better than she should be, or recalcitrant around a buffet bar, metaphorical or otherwise, and since I am fairly certain Mags knows better, I suspect that the real reason for this is probably there is more money and power opportunity in being anti-gay than there is being pro-marriage, which can subsume the latter easily. It plays better with the base and with the men with the money bags.
Personally, I applaud their move. Honesty is NEVER to be discouraged.
johnathan
June 29th, 2010
Hell, why don’t they just link up with Fred Phelps and make their intentions really known?
John Doucette
June 29th, 2010
“#never trust activists of the homosexual agenda – they are deceitful people who care only about themselves and not what’s best for society!”
Look who’s calling the kettle black. These people have their own agenda and it has nothing to do with what is best for society.
Bruce Garrett
June 29th, 2010
You have to figure one of the biggest reasons why they don’t want their donor lists disclosed isn’t that they’re protecting those donors, but that they don’t want everyone to see what parts of the American sewer their money is coming from. I’m still assuming that nearly all of it is coming from the Mormon Church, but if half the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hate group list was in there too it wouldn’t surprise me.
cowboy
June 30th, 2010
Though I haven’t seen the documentary: 8: The Mormon Proposition, there are discussions about the various points made in the movie.  On pro-gay Mormon websites (yes, folks, there are some Mormons who are for gay equality) there has been discussion on how the Mormon Church secretly called upon their most favored (wealthy) Saints to contribute to the California Proposition 8 fund. Â
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It was well publicized that WordPerfect co-founder Alan C. Ashton gave a matching million dollars to Proposition 8 while Bruce Bastian (the other founder of WordPerfect) gave a million bucks to counter the Proposition 8.Â
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I’m not sure I’ll be surprised at who is on the list of donors that made gays unable to marry in California.  Many Mormons would proudly wear that badge of honor. Â
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