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NOM’s Louis Marinelli denies speaking for NOM

Timothy Kincaid

July 26th, 2010

The National Organization for Marriage’s Louis Marinelli is currently driving the bus for NOM’s Tour of Mostly-Empty City Plazas. Marinelli was a natural selection after his organization One Man, One Woman was brought under the NOM umbrella and his Facebook page became the one that NOM touts as their own. Or, as Marinelli said on March 17th, “We are now working directly for the National Organization for Marriage.”

But Marinelli’s own personal blogsite is not NOM’s blogsite – they have their own – and we have been careful to distinguish between NOM’s blogsite, NOM’s Facebook page (which is owned by Marinelli), and Marinelli’s own personal blogsite which shares the same name as NOM’s Facebook page. Nevertheless, Marinelli has now issued this “clarification” on his blogsite.

A statement of clarity
I would like to take this opportunity to state that the opinions and statements made in this blog reflect only the opinions of myself, personally, not the National Organization for Marriage.

I am not an employee of the National Organization for Marriage. I am a third party who is directly involved as a partner with the Summer for Marriage.

Therefore, positions I take and statements I make do not reflect the positions or opinions of any other person, entity or the National Organization for Marriage as a whole.

This statement of clarity has been added due to the heavy attention our opponents give to this blog and the great lack of understanding of who or what I represent. Let this stand as a clarification to all.

This is an effort on the part of the National Organization for Marriage to speak out of both sides of their mouth. They wish to have NOM – which makes statements that are palatable to the secular public – but also be able to have Louis/One Man, One Woman – who can say the fiery things that horrify the public but which are required to motivate the rabble.

I’m not buying it.

Of course Louis may not be an “employee” of NOM – in the sense that he receives a paycheck with their name in the corner. But let us not pretend that Louis is an independent third party, either.

And, of course he doesn’t “speak for” NOM any more than those persons who NOM invites to stand in front of their microphone and address their (tiny) crowds speak for NOM. But let’s not pretend that Louis’ opinions and statements are entirely independent of those of NOM. It’s his website that bears their LOGO. It’s his butt sitting in the bus’ drivers seat.

Perhaps the best way to view Louis is to consider the relationship between a political candidate and his campaign strategist. A strategist is not the candidate and he may not “speak for” the candidate officially, but his public positions are associated with the candidate and – if not retracted or renounced – can safely be assumed to be the same as those of the candidate.

So too are Louis Marinelli’s opinions and statements a reflection on the opinions and statements of the National Organization for Marriage. The “distinctions” between the two are meaningless. And unless and until NOM officially denounces his statements and re-separates their commingled organizations, it is disingenuous to argue otherwise.



Tony P
July 26th, 2010 | LINK

Yeah, NOM is now trying a high road/low road strategy. That’s falling on its face too.

July 26th, 2010 | LINK

I’ve gotten the impression from what I’ve seen him write that he thinks he’s not affiliated because he isn’t paid.

And that’s horse—-. If you’re a volunteer, you’re still an employee, because you work for your company at their pleasure. As a volunteer, you have to make your bosses happy the same as if you were paid. Sure, there’s a different standard, but it’s not like you can’t get fired from a volunteer job – especially if you’re in a PR position and you go *way* off-message!

If NOM wanted to seem palatable to a non-crazy public, the only way now is to publicly fire Marinelli. I take that back, actually – the time for firing him was weeks ago.

July 26th, 2010 | LINK

Maggie’s back being the mouth piece and Brian’s AWOL. Louis has apparently been told distance himself, or at least try to. Seems like some of those mysterious donors weren’t too happy with the way this summer tour was playing out.

July 26th, 2010 | LINK

If NOM wanted to seem palatable to a non-crazy public, the only way now is to publicly fire Marinelli.

Organizations ultimate reflect the character and tropes and mental health of the people/person at their core.

If NOM appears wacko, the reason for that will lie largely in Maggie’s choices and mental condition.

My considered opinion, after seven years of observations, is that the bulk of the hardcore anti-marriage activists (and “family values” activists generally) are a socially paranoid but assertive, sexually agitated, and rigid religion championing bunch whose common denominator is being fairly functional but generally undiagnosed sufferers of bipolar disorder.

Bipolar disorder is about deficient activity of inhibitory neural circuitry, about continuing thoughts and emotion and sensory impressions usually suppressed by the nervous system as not worth further attention. It’s about suffering excessive compulsions and aversions- sensory, cognitive, and emotional. And that results in instances of Mel Gibson-ish choices and misjudgments and lapses of rational control.

I’ve seen the Phelpses and Wirthlins and Parkers and several other activists of the stripe up close. I’m not a psychiatrist, but these people are aberrant in that particular direction. I’ve never seen her up close, but on the few things I know about Mrs. Srinavastav I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s similar for her.

Lindoro Almaviva
July 27th, 2010 | LINK

apparently he got tired of people questioning his lies and his math and reminding him of the utter failure he is involved in.

I had no idea, but he was in Indy yesterday, I had never seen his face and a link to his facebook page provided elsewhere made me recognize him as one of the guys walking around he plaza.

He went from star of the show to stage hand in less than 3 weeks. Apparently Maggie Moo has a problem sharing the spotlight.

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