Not so skurrred

Timothy Kincaid

September 22nd, 2011

Once it became evident that Perry v. Schwarzenegger – the Proposition 8 trial – would be followed closely by the public and once it was abundantly clear that those supporting Proposition 8 had nothing to offer in its defense but speculation, tradition, and animus, the Proponents knew they had to do something. So they insisted that the case not be shown to the citizens, going so far as the Supreme Court.

But you can’t tell the court (or the public) that your witnesses aren’t going to witness because they will look like fools, so the Proponents came up with a unique explanation. Gays are violent threatening people and the witnesses are terrified of repercussions. (Washington Times)

“Brian Brown, executive director of the National Organization for Marriage, which campaigned for Proposition 8 but isn’t a party to the case, said he is worried about the safety of witnesses, who could include contributors, campaign staff and volunteers.

‘The question is really whether Judge Walker can put people on the stand where they can be threatened,’ said Mr. Brown. ‘It’s a question of people’s safety.’

But Brian Brown and his integrity parted ways long ago. In reality, none of the witnesses – indeed, no anti-gay activists – fear gay people. Our community is one which has been welcoming and a safe place for pretty much anyone.

Surely there is no person in this country more singularly associated with the campaign to deny gay people their civil marriage rights than Maggie Gallagher… the same Maggie Gallagher who went alone to a theatrical production this week where she knew that the overwhelming majority of people around her would be gay.
Because she knew she’d be safe.

Ray Harwick

September 22nd, 2011

The reason I don’t have my own blog is because I’m incapable of connecting dots like this. This is *perfect* dot connection and one of the most satisfying. Thanks, Jim.


September 22nd, 2011

Don’t forget, she had her bottomless bag of chips to keep her company. :-)

David in Houston

September 22nd, 2011

Maybe Maggie thought she was safe because she was making so much noise munching her trash bag full of popcorn during the play. (snark)

I would like Brian Brown to provide the name of one Christian that has ever been beaten up, attacked with baseball bats, or killed at the hands of gay people. Just one will do, Brian.


September 22nd, 2011

Remember Brian, the gays are more scared of you then your are of them.


September 22nd, 2011

One of my biggest frustrations with the MSM is how willing they’ve been to parrot this meme without looking at the obvious fact that there are dozens and dozens of very high profile anti-gay activists who manage to go about their business without armed escorts and security details.

If there was indeed a organized and violent LGBT underground how is it that someone like Tony Perkins can still be unscathed? It’s not like the AFA is in an undisclosed location. Why is Robert George able to go about the Princeton campus with out a body guard? Brian Brown brings his wife and kids to his little rally’s where the gays often out number his attendees—obviously not so scary. Any attacks against the Liberty Counsel? BamBam and Porno Pete? As you point out Maggie seems to have to no problem going about NYC and Scarsdale with much interference.

It’s not as if we don’t know who our enemies are. The whole our witnesses are scared for their safety meme is utter nonsense and the media should call them on it.

Richard Rush

September 22nd, 2011

But you can’t tell the court (or the public) that your witnesses aren’t going to witness because they will look like fools, so the Proponents came up with a unique explanation. Gays are violent threatening people and the witnesses are terrified of repercussions.

The Prop8 proponents are predominantly religion-driven, so as part of that world it’s easy for them to imagine that they can just make up preposterous stories and have them magically accepted as true. This preposterous story was merely one of many. But most of their would-be witnesses were smart enough to know that while Magic Truth can persuade gullible fools to support them, it will generally get them laughed out of a courtroom.


September 23rd, 2011

Don’t worry about their safety dude, God will protect them. If they aren’t protected, that’ll probably mean that he doesn’t approve of their actions. :)

Reed Boyer

September 23rd, 2011

Excellent and telling point (Gallagher’s attendance sans bodguards); however, now that she’s stepped down (or been manuevered out), will we see claims that she did so out of fear for her personal safety based on her attendance (and the firestorm of “munching Maggie” observations)?


September 23rd, 2011

A dumb argument as the names of the witnesses are known. And as the anti-abortion people have shown, it is no big effort the plaster a person’s name, picture, home and work addresses and even their children all over. Keeping the tapes of the trial under wraps wouldn’t do anything. If anybody was interested in harming these people, it would have happened already.


September 24th, 2011

Looks like Maggie didn’t so much step down as step aside – she’s now heading up a new organization to legally defend all the people who are attacked for their anti-marriage stands.

But apparently, it’s an “anti-defamation” thing rather than an anti-assault thing. ‘Cause when they make unsupported sweeping statements declaring us to be direct threats to civilization and specifically out to assault children, that’s all in fun, but pointing out that they are liars with no proof to their claims is actionable.

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