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BBC Airs Stephen Fry’s “Out There,” Explores Ex-Gay Therapy

Jim Burroway

October 15th, 2013

Stephen Fry’s two-part special “Out There,” in the works for at least a couple of years, premiered last night on BBC2. Sadly, only a few clips are available in North American. “Out There,” as the name compactly describes, explores what it’s like to be “out” there — “there” being mostly outside of the United Kingdom. One segment brings Fry to the United States, where he investigates the ex-gay movement with interviews with NARTH co-founder Joseph Nicolosi and BTB’s Daniel Gonzales (and his cool mom).

Part one also featured Fry’s trip to Uganda. Part two, which airs Wednesday, explores life in Brazil, Russia and India.



Bose in St. Peter MN
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Intriguing that Fry found Nicolosi metrosexual-ish, and that he brought the most gentle, tempered therapeutic voice to this piece.

Hearing him speak in person at Love One Out years back, I thought the voice was entirely different. Angry. Aggrieved. Accusatory. It seemed The World Just Didn’t Understand what Nicolosi believed to be his own brilliance, and that frustrated him deeply.

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Stephen Fry certainly isn’t one of my favourite people, but I have to say that I did admire the way that he dealt with Nicolosi.

Bernie Keefe
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I saw this on JMG this morning, and I’ll repeat myself here…With all of Nicolosi’s gesticulations, I’d bet even money that he’s gay himself.

My hat’s off to Daniel for be able to talk about it.

October 15th, 2013 | LINK

Of course the majority of his clients are children. Very revealing. People who’ve had a little time to live with themselves are much less likely to be swayed enough by self-doubt to believe that there’s anything for so called reparative therapy to repair.

It’s such an unethical counselling method to take a child with concerns about their sexual orientation and tell them anything other than that they’re ok and to let things work themselves out; that gay, straight or bi, they’re fine as they are.

The thought that Nicolosi is in the business of setting up kids to loathe themselves if they turn out gay is sickening. It’s especially appalling to see how lucrative this scam has proved, judging by his rooms.

October 21st, 2013 | LINK

Huh. I met Nicolosi back in I believe it was 1992 when his office was out in Encino. Back then he was charging a $100 an hour from what I remember yet it’s only gone up $40 since then? He has a much better office now but he’s making the money up somewhere else I’m guessing. Btw, can’t say anything more about him. He seemed like a nice man at the time but the cost of the sessions, the drive from near Oxnard, and my skepticism of it all nixed it for me after 1 or 2 visits.

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