GOP Top Tier Ignore the “Values Voters”

Timothy Kincaid

September 17th, 2007

The great circus of extremism known as the Values Voters Debate is being held today, and the Republican front runners will not be there. NBC6 is reporting that Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, John McCain and Fred Thompson all have “scheduling conflicts” and wouldn’t be caught dead at the event.

One can hardly blame them. The debate is moderated by WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah and will host questions from “the American Family Association, Liberty Counsel, Creation Studies Institute and the like”, including the brother of Terri Schiavo.

But though Janet Folger is terribly disappointed (and predicting dire results for those who are skipping the lunacy), there are some candidates so extreme (or so desperate) that they are willing to publically tie their wagons to young earthers, Ford boycotters, xenophobes, and homophobes.

Tonight’s forum, which will be moderated by Joseph Farah, the editor of WorldNetDaily, will feature Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kansas), former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Congressmen Duncan Hunter (California), Ron Paul (Texas), and Tom Tancredo (Colorado), John Cox — and former U.S. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who announced his candidacy over the weekend.

Those with nothing to do (and I truly mean nothing to do) can tune in to watch the also-rans claim to each be more extreme than the other.

Nathan

September 17th, 2007

I don’t know what most of those speakers are doing there. Ron Paul’s the only one who I have any clue about, and I suspect he’s doing it out of some futile desire to convince them that the government shouldn’t legislate special priveleges for them. It’s the sort of thing he’s done in the past.

Anyways, I think you’re assuming they’re all there to make a good impression. Hopefully some of them aren’t. Regardless, the results of this debate should be interesting.

I’m not going to be watching, but I’ll probably find something on the blogosphere about it soon enough.

Timothy Kincaid

September 17th, 2007

Nathan, good point. I was a bit hasty in assuming that all participants are going there to claim the title of Most Socially Conservative.

Lynn David

September 17th, 2007

I’m sure Alan Keyes out-moralled everyone there.

Lynn David

September 18th, 2007

Ms Folger had this to say about the debate [http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57685 – also a list of questions]:

I want to be on record with five predictions.

1 – I predict the Values Voter Straw Poll will unify the pro-family movement and determine the nominee. Unlike other straw polls that are flawed by design, where candidates have bussed in supporters or paid for their tickets, more than 600 delegates to the Values Voter Debate Straw Poll were submitted by 40 national leaders to accurately represent America’s largest voting block.

2 – I predict the “Values Voter Guide” DVD will saturate the nation and make the largest voting block even larger.

3 – I predict that the candidates who chose not to attend will regret the decision to snub us because they will not win without us.

4 – I predict that there will be a Values Voter Presidential Debate in every presidential election from this point forward.

5 – For too long values voters have been pushed to the back of the bus; last night they moved into the driver’s seat.

6 – I think she needs to check into reality if she had the gall to write this even before the debate.

Timothy Kincaid

September 18th, 2007

In my opinion, to the extent that anyone (outside the nut farm) saw the debate, this will only go to harm the participants. This was a parade of extremism and right-wing lunacy on display. By championing every wacky right-wing “cause”, they alienated the normal Republicans and independents.

Mark

September 19th, 2007

Actually, Ron Paul came across rather well in this debate. Unlike the other candidates, he gave a number of answers the audience was not comfortable with, and was even booed. He did receive some applause as well. He scored some major points in my mind pointing out that this “pro-life” group was not so “pro-life” when it came to killing people in Iraq.

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